newcastle broon Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, magoo said: Or just plan and look forward too games against nitten dalkeith and Aniston.... Harsh but realistic I just think it shouldn't be happening so soon and without a fight either. Way things are we could finish the season in single figures!! I really hope I'm proved well wrong though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: Harsh but realistic I just think it shouldn't be happening so soon and without a fight either. Way things are we could finish the season in single figures!! I really hope I'm proved well wrong though. Are we ever going to win the lowland league...?? Even more so now can you see us being top 5...?? Would you get more out if dalkeith v ww/ww v Aniston or ww v dalbeattie/bsc v ww.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talbot69 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, magoo said: Are we ever going to win the lowland league...?? Even more so now can you see us being top 5...?? Would you get more out if dalkeith v ww/ww v Aniston or ww v dalbeattie/bsc v ww.... The way things are going that’s the next stage Im afraid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, magoo said: Are we ever going to win the lowland league...?? Even more so now can you see us being top 5...?? Would you get more out if dalkeith v ww/ww v Aniston or ww v dalbeattie/bsc v ww.... You want the club to be as high as they can I'd much rather be playing in the LL week in week out. Stick yer Dalkeith and Arnistons !! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, newcastle broon said: You want the club to be as high as they can I'd much rather be playing in the LL week in week out. Stick yer Dalkeith and Arnistons !! Whitehill will always be a non league club know matter how high you may want them to climb....games against local teams at a relevant level are personality more appealing to me that tues night trips to cumbernauld and edusport...that's my own opioion and regards the financial rewards is there many from being in.the lowland??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, magoo said: Whitehill will always be a non league club know matter how high you may want them to climb....games against local teams at a relevant level are personality more appealing to me that tues night trips to cumbernauld and edusport...that's my own opioion and regards the financial rewards is there many from being in.the lowland??? Scottish cup round 1 participation and wi top 4 finish betfred cup/challenge cup places up for grabs for a start.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Still be in the Scottish...bet Fred places...aye right 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, magoo said: Still be in the Scottish...bet Fred places...aye right Aye if it goes to prelims we'll get hee haw from the SFA !! Tv coverage of these cups as well now it's gone uk wide. Maybes hj can fill us in wi a few stats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) If you're talking cup entry, then if you win LL you get into the Scottish League Cup. If you finish top 4 (or maybe top 3 now given what went on this season?) you get into the Scottish Challenge Cup. Dropping out of LL could mean entering the Scottish Cup a round early or maybe 2 rounds early depending on the draw. There is good prize money in the League Cup, and comparatively little in the Challenge Cup (though you did get a crate of Strathmore bottled water IIRC?!). I haven't seen a proper list of Scottish Cup prizemoney since they were tweaked last season, but it's something like £2,000 per round in the preliminaries then add an extra £1,000 for each round from R1. Pros 'n cons to that... it depends if starting earlier makes it easier to win ties - e.g. if you lose at Elgin someone like Coldstream will bank £4k more from this season's cup than Whitehill and it might be fairly close even if you went a round further. AFAIA there isn't any prize money in LL although there are fair play awards and similar. There was prizemoney in EOSL - couple of years ago top pot was stated as £1,500 - but presumably altered with conferences this season. Not all about money, though. EDIT: If you're on about TV money there isn't any in the Challenge Cup. It's something like £10k in the League Cup - although only 6 games are shown in the groupstage so unlikely HL / LL champ ever feature. Scottish Cup ties are shown from R4 but have been drastically cut from £82.5k to something like £30k as part of a rebalancing to put a little bit more in prize money into every round. There used to be small supplement for using Youtube highlights (few hundred £) but all ties are filmed for that now, IIRC. Edited October 4, 2018 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 5 hours ago, jedirules said: The clear out should have been the CO - Managers,,,,,,,,,,, every week a player leaves ! Hard to give 100% effort when the call for changes is ignored by the CO- Managers until its too late and as soon as it was 3-0 whats the effing point of changing then !! 1st Half decent performance but struggling in certain positions which should have been dealt with at half time before it was too late ! piss poor formation again , players out of position again , and changes not made when players obviously having a disaster to all apart from the coaches remained on the pitch Changes only made when game gone again A strong lined up in a normal formation with players in their normal positions and lets see what happens on Saturday ps Thoughts go to the BSC lad Players have left? Only saw that a Scotland international had signed on the dotted line to bolster the squad. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 10 hours ago, newcastle broon said: Now I know what it was like to be a City fan for years Difference is nowadays you can fall quite steeply through that glass ceiling you'd kill for our traditional 7th place these days... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoofhearted Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Nil Desperandum- remember the Whitehill way: Pray for a wet winter, get all the fixtures at Fergie Park cancelled and then beat teams in the spring when they can't be arsed!I think you better get the hoses out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlansHotBath Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 5 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: There is good prize money in the League Cup, and comparatively little in the Challenge Cup (though you did get a crate of Strathmore bottled water IIRC?!) 52 minutes ago, Hoofhearted said: On 10/2/2018 at 22:33, tamthebam said: Nil Desperandum- remember the Whitehill way: Pray for a wet winter, get all the fixtures at Fergie Park cancelled and then beat teams in the spring when they can't be arsed! I think you better get the hoses out. Hmmm... starting to think a Challenge Cup run might signal the start of a bright new era for WW... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, tamthebam said: you'd kill for our traditional 7th place these days... The Welfare could be relegated by Christmas Tam ... that jaunt down Carnethie Street could be even more hazardous for you than normal. Edited October 4, 2018 by Rab B Nesbit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesw Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 problems started when small was appointed. signed players from south division who arnae good enough for lowland. committe had chance to sack him end of last season but didnt. so we sack him 2 games in only to replace him with a guy who signs more players from 1 o the worst teams in the south division. an am wi newcy. id rather play edu bsc etc rather than eos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Rab B Nesbit said: The Welfare could be relegated by Christmas Tam ... that jaunt down Carnethie Street could be even more hazardous for you than normal. especially if I wear my new winter outfit....! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 9 hours ago, Jamesw said: problems started when small was appointed. signed players from south division who arnae good enough for lowland. committe had chance to sack him end of last season but didnt. so we sack him 2 games in only to replace him with a guy who signs more players from 1 o the worst teams in the south division. an am wi newcy. id rather play edu bsc etc rather than eos -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 problems started when small was appointed. signed players from south division who arnae good enough for lowland. committe had chance to sack him end of last season but didnt. so we sack him 2 games in only to replace him with a guy who signs more players from 1 o the worst teams in the south division. an am wi newcy. id rather play edu bsc etc rather than eos The idea of signing players from inferior teams isn’t so much of an issue as individually they may be good enough. The issue seems to be that it’s been a good few seasons since welfare had a manager who knows what’s needed to do well at LL level. No real strategy in place to then ‘succeed’. There are success stories on low budgets each season at this level. It’s a case of using the resources wisely and that’s not happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 City signed John Dunn from Craigroyston and Robbie McIntyre from Tynecastle, both teams being in the EOSFL. Both players have held their own in Division 2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesw Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) am told mark smith is possibly a way also. will his brother go to? Edited October 5, 2018 by Jamesw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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