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Scotland v Belgium (Match Thread)


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We've already "ripped-it-up" numerous times... think-tank, "Youth Initiative", Millennium Action Plan, elite pathway, McLeish Review/"Scotland United: 2020 Vision", performance schools...

Now we've got the botched "Project Brave" - which you can't rip-up, tbf, as it isn't actually written-down in the first place.
Yup. I loathe the 'grass roots' shouts after defeats like this. We do actually have a few initiatives (like them or loathe them) in progress. Let's see if they work for once before 'ripping it all up and starting again' (again)
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In the short run we need to stop pretending that we can play football and play to our strengths - other international teams who have players playing at the same level or even lower than ours manage to do well with what they work with - we increasingly have the sum that is a lot less than the parts.

 

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1 minute ago, pub car king said:

The game needs change at every single level in this country but even if we lose 8 - 0 f**k all will get done about it. 

It also needs everyone to remember it could take over a decade for any chances to have an effect.

Changing your plan every every four years is utterly pointless.

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2 minutes ago, MonEhTon said:

It never ceases to amaze me how fans will call for the manager’s head in situations like this. What exactly should he have done differently? They’re lightyears ahead of us in every department, and will split us open at will regardless of formation or coaching.

Surely you're joking...?


Belgium 3-1 Russia
Cyprus 0-2 Belgium
Belgium 3-0 Kazakhstan
Belgium 3-0 Scotland
San Marino 0-4 Belgium

 HT  ... Scotland 0-3 Belgium

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The positioning of McLean and Mctominay is all wrong. Actually the whole team seems to be set up to play right into Belgium's hands. 

Some of our players are clearly out of their depth, but Clarke had been as well. 

We've let both Belgium and Russia play exactly the games they wanted to, with no real resistance. 

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In the short run we need to stop pretending that we can play football and play to our strengths - other international teams who have players playing at the same level or even lower than ours manage to do well with what they work with - we increasingly have the sum that that is a lot less than the parts.
 
I think part of the problem is that we don't just have 11 limited players. Countries like that are happy to pack in, scrap for everything and hope for the best. We've got an excellent attacking full back, 5 decent midfielders, and nothing else, so we're very unbalanced. A coherent, balanced team with a game plan that suits them all is often better than one with a big variety of levels and big differences in quality across the park.
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Watched the last 10 of the NI game and what a difference. They were aggressive, organised, pressed as a team and countered quickly. The atmosphere was excellent as well.

We are so far behind them it’s wild considering the donkeys they have.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again.

If we just picked the Arbroath team our results wouldn't be any worse.

Most of that team, in fact most of the players we've picked over a number of years give 30%, 40% every time they pull on a Scotland jersey.

There are good to decent club players that should absolutely fired out of the international set up.

Bring in players that give a f**k.  

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