Billy Jean King Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I could understand it in busy areas, which there shouldn’t be many of anyway, but anytime you’re out? Seems ludicrous. Most of Europe has had the outdoor masks rule for months it's not exactly new. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Lviv Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Predictions: Fans won’t be back in games in 2021 Pubs will be closed until at least July We will bounce between tiers for the next 12 months The general public will still not wash their hands 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Tourette said: I wonder does this mean the Euros with crowds could be a goer? Received my tickets this morning 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Alan sugar sister dies of covid 2 weeks after his brother also died of covid.Whilst its a shame 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, djchapsticks said: We won't. People who seek any sort of confirmation bias though? At the end of the day, even 90% efficacy means that 10% of people who get the vaccine won't have protection. That of course is very effective but when you consider that there will presumably be a huge lift of restrictions upon vaccinations being administered, then IMO, it's going to be absolutely unavoidable that there will be an initial rise of cases for a month or two. The potential impact should be researched and communicated in advance as failure to do so is unfortunately giving the anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists, something substantial to use. We need to remember that despite us living with more access to information than we've ever had at any point in human history, ignorance, wilful or otherwise is probably more rampant than it's ever been. As well as what's already been said about the severity of any infection, the 10% will benefit from others being vaccinated and reducing the chances of them coming into contact with it at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, renton said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/27/global-report-astrazeneca-chief-believes-vaccine-will-work-on-variant-strain They're talking about delivering 40 million doses by end of March If they plan to deliver 40 million by end of March then I expect they'll actually deliver about 18,000 and thank everyone for their hard work getting us up to capacity while Hancock maniacally laugh/cries into a camera on BBC News. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: 36 minutes ago, alta-pete said: A trainee training on the trains? Along with a trainer, no less. It's a lovely day toda...sorry, got sidetracked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Predictions: Fans won’t be back in games in 2021 Pubs will be closed until at least July We will bounce between tiers for the next 12 months The general public will still not wash their hands 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Most of Europe has had the outdoor masks rule for months it's not exactly new.Hasn’t exactly helped all that much has it tho? Neither did banning the people from going out for a wee walk and having the stormtroopers stop every person they saw in the street to check their papers were in order. Cases and deaths were still through the roof 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, doulikefish said: Going to be a lot of folk pissed off when hancocks "over by spring" comment doesnt happen.I file it in the same box as the "better by june" "over by xmas" comments,lets just get it rolled out and everybody vaccinated that needs to be before in a timely manner The 1 million that the SG pledged would be vaccinated by the end of January would be a start. Having another vaccine is obviously good news but this chat of oh I guess we should wait until everyone in every vulnerable category has got their two jabs and then drum our fingers waiting on the impact before we can possibly lift restrictions is concerning. We already have objective criteria in place for the tier categories in Scotland: these should be applied again, with greater emphasis on ICU cases over time, rather than positive cases among the general public which become increasingly irrelevant. Progress in vaccinating vulnerable categories should therefore feed into the ending of restrictions in various parts of the country, it should not be a pre-requisite to start doing so. Absolute NAP that Sridhar starts playing up 'but... but... long Covid!!!!1111!!!!' to maintain her crusade for endless restrictions*. * Spoiler a cushy elevation away from Edinburgh Uni 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Sturgeon also saying it should be better by spring is more important - she tends to be a bit more cautious about this and less likely to make a headline grabbing claim. Yes, especially as those words will be used by her opponents on the campaign trail if they arent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Apparently UK capacity for the AZ vaccine production is 150,000 per day, 5 days a week. Quote Unite union official Dave Griffiths confirmed the Wrexham site has now taken on 40 staff. It plans to produce 150,000 vials a day, five days a week - as soon as it gets the green light. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1375917/coronavirus-oxford-vaccine-rollout-latest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Apparently UK capacity for the AZ vaccine production is 150,000 per day, 5 days a week. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1375917/coronavirus-oxford-vaccine-rollout-latest 5 days a week ffs. That is pathetic. In the middle of a pandemic where we are under the tightest restrictions of people’s lifetimes and they won’t work weekends to produce more vaccines. Unbelievable. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Honest_Man#1 said: 5 days a week ffs. That is pathetic. In the middle of a pandemic where we are under the tightest restrictions of people’s lifetimes and they won’t work weekends to produce more vaccines. Unbelievable. Bear in mind it's the Express and Shop Steward Dave might not be fully in the loop. Hope not anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 They (NS and BJ) seem to be saying the spring for Level 0 type conditions. In some ways it is good there is no detailed road map because doing so would be claiming a level of knowledge that would be more about PR rather than science. The main rate limiting factor is how quickly vaccine vials can be supplied by Pfizer and AstraZeneca and that is outside their control.Not looking for definite dates, but just an idea of what restrictions can be eased once certain levels of vaccinations are reached. E.g. what easing will there be when all the over 60s and clinically vulnerable have had their jab? I don't think that's too much to ask for folk like me who are currently around 30 millionth in the queue and would like to get on with life sometime soon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Apparently UK capacity for the AZ vaccine production is 150,000 per day, 5 days a week. Unite union official Dave Griffiths confirmed the Wrexham site has now taken on 40 staff. It plans to produce 150,000 vials a day, five days a week - as soon as it gets the green light. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1375917/coronavirus-oxford-vaccine-rollout-latestIf there was ever a case for putting on a bit of weekend overtime... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, welshbairn said: Bear in mind it's the Express and Shop Steward Dave might not be fully in the loop. Hope not anyway. Yeah I wouldn’t take it as gospel, but if does end up being the case I hope there is severe pressure put on them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Yeah I wouldn’t take it as gospel, but if does end up being the case I hope there is severe pressure put on them. Some of the quotes coming out about production volumes seem more aimed at share price than any realistic expectation. Pfizer promised 10 million by tomorrow, I can't find any information suggesting they've managed as much as 2 million so far, or even 1 million verified. Edited December 30, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Hasn’t exactly helped all that much has it tho? Neither did banning the people from going out for a wee walk and having the stormtroopers stop every person they saw in the street to check their papers were in order. Cases and deaths were still through the roofNo I agree was just pointing out it's not novel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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