Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[craigkillie]

6 minutes ago, Michael W said:

This wouldn't be happening if folk didn't just sack off the self-quarantine at home tbf. 

There was an article in the local press last week with a UAE-based businessman moaning that his daughters need to quarantine for 10 days before they can go to their private school should they return to the UK. Surely taking them out the country is a known risk given current circumstances? You were putting yourself at risk from inconvenient arrival processes long before hotel quarantine were being demanded. I get it's highly annoying, but you ought to be aware of the risks you're taking. 

As someone said earlier, the public here really do believe that their lives are so difficult compared with those of everyone else. 

Leaving them in the country was probably considered a risk at the time too given the infection rates here. I think it's reasonable to say that quarantine is hugely inconvenient for a lot of people, many of whom were abroad for entirely sensible or valid reasons. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do it, of course.

[Todd_is_God]

1 minute ago, Detournement said:

It's taken 6 months but I'm pleased that virginton and Todd are finally just saying schools closed, pubs open rather than dancing around it. 

What is the weird obsession with pubs?

I'd rather go round to see my parents tbh.

Edited February 15, 2021 by Todd_is_God

[vikingTON]

28 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

52 minutes ago, strichener said:

Those six or seven weeks in the summer must be murder for them.  Yet somehow they manage year after year.

A terrible point, considering 6 or 7 weeks at any point of the year under current restrictions is wildly different from any 6 or 7 weeks you care to choose in living memory.

 

16 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

19 minutes ago, strichener said:

 

Being off school in a normal summer holidays is completely different in every conceivable way to what's happening now, so them "managing it year after year" is completely irrelevant to, well anything really.

In what ways is it substantially different for children than before? With the exception of some pish-ridden soft play centres being closed as a public health risk (not before time), we have literally been making exceptions to every other activity and restriction 'fur the weans'. 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Just read on BBC Ross Greer saying if footballers cant respect the rules, then fans shouldnt be allowed back to stadiums


Firstly.... Lolwut?

Secondly though, the Greens can absolutely go and f**k themselves. Another party with a snobbish attitude to football and its fans.

Ross Greer is one of the biggest reasons for not voting green in the west of Scotland. Had considered lending my vote but he’s absolutely fucked it with that pish. 

[Todd_is_God]

4 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Just read on BBC Ross Greer saying if footballers cant respect the rules, then fans shouldnt be allowed back to stadiums


Firstly.... Lolwut?

Secondly though, the Greens can absolutely go and f**k themselves. Another party with a snobbish attitude to football and its fans.

His face just screams Rugby

[Detournement]

1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

What is the weird obsession with pubs?

I'd rather go round to see my parents tbh.

Just go and see them then. No one is stopping you. 

[Todd_is_God]

1 minute ago, Detournement said:

Just go and see them then. No one is stopping you. 

Apart from it being quite literally illegal to go inside their house?

Edited February 15, 2021 by Todd_is_God

[GiGi]

You go to prison just for looking at your parents these days.

[Billy Jean King]

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/chester-pushing-for-5000-racegoers-at-may-meeting-with-rapid-testing-in-place/473547

[coprolite]

15 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

My favourite was the description of having to isolate in a 5 bedroom house for 12 days as 'pretty horrific'.

If they were quarantined the maid wouldn't have been allowed in. They probably had to do their own dishes and everything. 

12 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Maybe, but then the Government didn't help themselves by essentially not following up on it.

Three unanswered phonecalls before we send the police round was bad enough as it gave plenty time to get home, but between my wife and I we received zero contact attempts in 14 days.

One of my colleagues was meant to be in quarantine and got spotted by a colleague walking his dog. He claimed he forgot he wasn't allowed out. He then got spotted cycling by another colleague later that day. 

[101]

7 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Just read on BBC Ross Greer saying if footballers cant respect the rules, then fans shouldnt be allowed back to stadiums


Firstly.... Lolwut?

Secondly though, the Greens can absolutely go and f**k themselves. Another party with a snobbish attitude to football and its fans.

As per usual the old firm giving everyone a nice excuse the kick football. We voted earlier about sinking Falkirk and Methill. Time to vote on sinking Ibrox and Parkhead.

[Detournement]

Just now, Todd_is_God said:

Apart from it being quite literally illegal to go inside their house?

Aye but it's in the category of laws you can ignore like downloading movies, smoking a joint or speeding. 

 

[Michael W]

1 minute ago, craigkillie said:

Leaving them in the country was probably considered a risk at the time too given the infection rates here. I think it's reasonable to say that quarantine is hugely inconvenient for a lot of people, many of whom were abroad for entirely sensible or valid reasons. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do it, of course.

Completely accept that, it's a fair point. 

If you have commitments in the UK, leaving was not however particularly wise given the possibility of measures being introduced - always a risk of this happening. 

[Todd_is_God]

2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/chester-pushing-for-5000-racegoers-at-may-meeting-with-rapid-testing-in-place/473547

What's that, about 25% of capacity?

It would be a good start. A proper "Test"

But still far too restricted in other ways to be viable longer term

Edited February 15, 2021 by Todd_is_God

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1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said:

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/chester-pushing-for-5000-racegoers-at-may-meeting-with-rapid-testing-in-place/473547

This is excellent, no reason it can't be used, shortly we will have vaccinated all the at risk groups rapid testing should mean just about anything willing to bear the brunt of the cost can open, especially out door events.

[Billy Jean King]

What's that, about 25% of capacity?
It would be a good start.

Yes but Chester is mental they pack them in like sardines normally

[Bairnardo]

In what ways is it substantially different for children than before? With the exception of some pish-ridden soft play centres being closed as a public health risk (not before time), we have literally been making exceptions to every other activity and restriction 'fur the weans'. 

Its wildly different to a normal summer holiday, that's for certain. Theres no point in pretending life isnt shit for kids as it is for us just now. I am quite simply hating life at the minute, and it doesnt matter that I have it better than a lot of folk. The same applies to kids.

I'm not going to participate in the when or why of schools going back debate anymore, for the simple reason that the only acceptable outcome for me now with vaccines available is the as prompt as possible return of every aspect of normal life, regardless of any rise in cases caused by any individual aspect. If that means schools next week or in 4 weeks, they still need to go back in pursuit of that goal.

By the time any increase in R is shown from the first tranche of pupils returning, the vaccination program will be even further down the road, with even less likelihood of problems for the NHS and the weather will be improving. Arguing about whether or not the schools should be in because of their impact on cases rather detracts from what I think should be the stick we beat the govt with... That cases are no longer relevant

[DiegoDiego]

This was discussed previously. If it still prevents severe illness and death then its doing its job.

Apologies, but this is a tough thread to stay up to date on.

Considering it was a mutation which began this whole thing, a mutation has shown to decrease efficacy of a vaccine and the virus is constantly evolving, I'm quite glad that people are continuing to research new strains. People are tracking asteroid orbits and researching how to avoid devastating collisions, too.

[PWL]

10 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Vaccine appointment tomorrow. Nurse, I’m ready.

You're going to be hugely dissapointed when Staff Nurse Jeanie McGlumfer gives you your jag and not one of the young ladies from your online selection. 

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, DiegoDiego said:

Considering it was a mutation which began this whole thing, a mutation has shown to decrease efficacy of a vaccine and the virus is constantly evolving, I'm quite glad that people are continuing to research new strains. People are tracking asteroid orbits and researching how to avoid devastating collisions, too.

There is nothing wrong with continuing to research. But even with reduced efficacy, the vaccine still performs much better at preventing serious illness than the flu vaccine ever does, and will have much greater population coverage.

Talking constantly about a specific, hypothetical, mutation like it is A guaranteed to happen, and B will happen abroad, helps no one think rationally.