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2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

The geographical tiered system indicates an intention to retain the power to increase restrictions in certain areas at any time. 

There is still no ‘end’ in clear sight here. And maybe she’s unable to give that in good faith, but it is disappointing to say the least. 

Johnson is retaining that ability too though. I don’t think it’s a bad thing, it certainly makes more sense to have places open and working where there is no need for them to be closed, just because somewhere else (probably Glasgow) still has high cases.

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3 minutes ago, Jambomo said:

They are going back into tiers though, that’s all Johnson’s stage 1,2,3 and 4 are. They aren’t much different from ours either.

That's not true though.

In the Scottish tier system if you're in tier 3 or 4 you can't leave your LA (i.e. you can't visit relatives in a park who happen to live in a different LA) - but that isn't the case in England

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Let's be honest, if Johnson hadn't come out yesterday and told everyone they could go to the Maniqui on the 21st June we'd all be sitting here thinking that what she said sounds pretty reasonable.

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Bit of an anticlimax that tbh. Very much a roadmap to getting to what is essentially Stage 2 in England, a couple of weeks after them, with nothing to indicate what may happen next.
You can argue about whether or not BJ's dates are realistic, but the destination is clear.
Fair.

It shows how far some folk have gone on this thread when you Sir are one of the more balanced posters. I never thought I'd see the day when half a dozen plus posters rocketed ahead of you in the roaster stakes.
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Just now, Steven W said:

That's not true though.

In the Scottish tier system if you're in tier 3 or 4 you can't leave your LA (i.e. you can't visit relatives in a park who happen to live in a different LA) - but that isn't the case in England

That's assuming the Tiers stay the same as what they were pre-vaccination.

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2 minutes ago, Gaz said:

Yes, this is the impression I get.

I think deep down she believes that Boris has fucked it and will inevitably need to go back on his word. The impression I get is that she doesn't want to do that.

Why would he have fcked it? By then the most vulnerable and elderly will be double dosed on the vaccine. I really dont care if somebody outwith those categories has to stay in bed for a few days. Deaths and ICU numbers should be all that matters by then. All this "to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed" bs seems to be replaced by "to prevent any sod getting covid at all" 

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1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said:

Fair.

It shows how far some folk have gone on this thread when you Sir are one of the more balanced posters. I never thought I'd see the day when half a dozen plus posters rocketed ahead of you in the roaster stakes.

I think there's a compliment in there 😂

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Just now, Thereisalight.. said:

Why would he have fcked it? By then the most vulnerable and elderly will be double dosed on the vaccine. I really dont care if somebody outwith those categories has to stay in bed for a few days. Deaths and ICU numbers should be all that matters by then. All this "to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed" bs seems to be replaced by "to prevent any sod getting covid at all" 

You're absolutely right. I mean, it's not like he has a track record of absolutely fucking it and having to go back on his word for me to base my scepticism on.

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Reaction to this amongst folk i follow on social media has been nuclear, major feeling of Sturgeon pissing on folks chips today. I think folk were maybe bit (understandably) carried away with the optimism of yesterday and it's sunk them to hear that we've still got a bit to go. I do understand folks frustrations with the general vague approach from Sturgeon and her refusal to give an exact roadmap like Johnson, but can see why she hasn't done that.

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Just now, Steven W said:

Do you think they won't be?

I would prefer them to be renamed tbh. England isn't using them this time, and the last thing we need is confusion with old copies with the same name.

That way it would also feel like a clean break.

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18 hours ago, pozbaird said:

Aye, very good. I thought I was an invincible superhero who couldn’t catch Covid? What the fcuk has a golf course got to do with anything? Turns out that so far, I haven’t caught as much as a cold. That’ll be because I obeyed the rules, have hardly done anything in nearly a year bar play some golf in the summer and did my shopping. I was open and honest about my shopping. When the shops we frequented were OK with us shopping as a couple - we did. In and out, quickly as possible. Since they tightened up on that, we have shopped alone. Been fcuking murder, I keep buying beer and bourbon. She’s not happy. Now, ignoring your shite snd getting back to facemasks... it’s seemingly all that really matters. The signs placed outside shops. The staff at the doors scanning for faces free of a piece of polyester shite. No-one seems to care about much else, as long as you have your facemask. Just my opinion. 

 

Aye, but you're half cut, why should you worry?

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That's not true though.
In the Scottish tier system if you're in tier 3 or 4 you can't leave your LA (i.e. you can't visit relatives in a park who happen to live in a different LA) - but that isn't the case in England
It's not to be level 3 as it was though, a new version to be announced next month. No way we will be confined to own LA when by then the stay at home order will have been removed weeks before that.
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