Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Don't know if anybody already posted this batshit mental interview with the mayor of Las Vegas. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alr Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, sparky88 said: The standard of question to Sturgeon at the daily briefing is atrocious. They are basically all asking 'When is Nando's going to open' in slightly different ways. They want Nicola Sturgeon to write their headlines for them. My favourite was the Record journo asking her if she's cancelling Christmas. She struggled to hide the smirk before giving the obvious reasonable answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MacLean Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, Speroni*1 said: Update on the old dear - She's been put down Harsh I would have thought :-) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Few more weeks of lockdown & you'll have the 'sick of so-called experts' brigade piping up as we saw during brexit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendot Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, sparky88 said: The standard of question to Sturgeon at the daily briefing is atrocious. They are basically all asking 'When is Nando's going to open' in slightly different ways. List of questions every day or variations concerning the following. PPE (think this one has disappeared now?) When will lockdown end? When will sports / gigs etc happen again? What is the exit strategy? Are we reaching the peak / plateauing? It must get tedious answering the same old shite every day. Are they expecting her to suddenly turn around and say, aye just carry on as normal overnight Einstein said it best............Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Fucking Journalists! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I'm currently self isolating in Inverness - certainly seeing a lot more cars on the road than was the case a couple of weeks ago. Not seeing many police cars around, or any evidence of anyone being stopped and questioned as to their reasons for being on the road.Thought you lived down south? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, ayrmad said: I've no idea how long folk would have lived but 93% having no serious comorbidity certainly doesn't fit with the narrative we've been spun over the last 5 or 6 weeks. This is true but also underlying health conditions doesn't automatically mean serious comorbidity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 30 minutes ago, Owsley said: I read there was two deaths, both in Santa Clara, California well before the supposed first death. The one on the 6th and another on the 17th. Yeah, diagnosed on autopsy iirc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: Daily Record hack - Nicola Grinch are you stopping me having christmas dinner with my family? NS - Let me make this clear, get yerself tae f**k. Vivienne Aitken is one of the thickest people to ever call themselves a journalist in history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, madwullie said: This is true but also underlying health conditions doesn't automatically mean serious comorbidity I've had an underlying health issue for 17 years, haven't had a day off sick in that spell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MacLean Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I've had a skim through the document released today and a first glance it appears really useful and clear in terms of explanation and expectation. There's nothing really new in it but just as has been the case with the vast majority of stuff from the Scottish Government it comes across as honest with no attempt to mislead even by providing false assurances. I get the sense what they are doing is genuinely motivated by a desire to safeguard health before safeguarding the economy although the latter will clearly be a factor in when and what restrictions are relaxed. I'm not sure that that approach is shared everywhere else. There is no eradicating the virus. It will be about how we learn to live with it and what we consider as "acceptable" mortality levels. Personally I'm still going back and forwards to work so find that kind of structure to my day very useful but otherwise, I'll be honest, I'm finding it hard. Not being able to do the things I enjoy or having any concept of when that might change is having a negative impact on my mental wellbeing. I'll not be alone in that respect and the numbers feeling that way will only grow as time goes on. A time will have to come when judgements are made surrounding what is best for society's collective mental health and not just it's collective physical health. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Forest_Fifer said: You think our police are over reacting to people, how about this from the USA? I saw it on a legal issues YouTube channel https://reason.com/2020/04/17/a-teenager-posted-about-her-covid-19-infection-on-instagram-a-deputy-threatened-to-arrest-her-if-she-didnt-delete-it/ This is so fucked up it's not true. Short version - schoolgirl goes to Florida, comes back with what looks like Covid 19, goes to hospital and gets diagnosed, is released, tells her friends on Instagram about it, also tells the school to warn people. She then worsens, gets readmitted, then comes home again. The local sherrifs department then visits, telling her to delete her posts or she and her parents would be arrested for disorderly conduct. Apparently the school hadn't bothered to get back to her, but had complained to the police and basically said she was lying about having it. Shes now sueing the school, the sheriff, and the officer who threatened her. "Patrol Sergeant Cameron Klump" Klump by name, clump by nature. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Hearing social distancing is likely to be in place the rest of the year is a bit shit for me. I work in the events industry doing various things so no work for potentially months/a year is sobering. It’s hard enough suffering from depression without having something to “get up and go” for. Throw in the fact I live in a small Ayrshire town with feck all to do apart from be alone with my thoughts. Without being all woe is me, in the last 7 months I’ve had a long term relationship end, my Dad dying and now no job. It’s a lot to go through. Maybe people should think about people like me who are struggling before they blindly agree with lockdown measures lasting months and it impacting on so many businesses, jobs, and mental health 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: "Patrol Sergeant Cameron Klump" Klump by name, clump by nature. Transatlantic equivalent of PC Plod. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, John MacLean said: I've had a skim through the document released today and a first glance it appears really useful and clear in terms of explanation and expectation. There's nothing really new in it but just as has been the case with the vast majority of stuff from the Scottish Government it comes across as honest with no attempt to mislead even by providing false assurances. I get the sense what they are doing is genuinely motivated by a desire to safeguard health before safeguarding the economy although the latter will clearly be a factor in when and what restrictions are relaxed. I'm not sure that that approach is shared everywhere else. There is no eradicating the virus. It will be about how we learn to live with it and what we consider as "acceptable" mortality levels. Personally I'm still going back and forwards to work so find that kind of structure to my day very useful but otherwise, I'll be honest, I'm finding it hard. Not being able to do the things I enjoy or having any concept of when that might change is having a negative impact on my mental wellbeing. I'll not be alone in that respect and the numbers feeling that way will only grow as time goes on. A time will have to come when judgements are made surrounding what is best for society's collective mental health and not just it's collective physical health. Good balanced post and anyone who says anything different is undoubtedly lying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Hearing social distancing is likely to be in place the rest of the year is a bit shit for me. I work in the events industry doing various things so no work for potentially months/a year is sobering. It’s hard enough suffering from depression without having something to “get up and go” for. Throw in the fact I live in a small Ayrshire town with feck all to do apart from be alone with my thoughts. Without being all woe is me, in the last 7 months I’ve had a long term relationship end, my Dad dying and now no job. It’s a lot to go through. Maybe people should think about people like me who are struggling before they blindly agree with lockdown measures lasting months and it impacting on so many businesses, jobs, and mental health Who is blindly agreeing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Agreed. This idea that, for the Tories, it's a straight shootout between the economy and people dying is unbelievably simplistic and I have no idfea why someone would choose to either believe that or pass it on as fact. Purely on health terms, if the lockdown continues for too long we end up with it killing more people than it protects and I'm talking about untreated cancer patients etc. It's a balance where people die no matter what the Tories do. As for the economy - if the economy dies, people will die too. For all their mistakes, the Tories have done some good things in this crisis. They are voluntarily paying countless employees on furlough rather than have them on the dole (which would have been much much cheaper for the Tories). Millions of small business owners will just have had or soon will have non-repayable grants of either £10k or £25k paid straight into their bank accounts with the 80% average profit payments to kick in within 6 weeks. If the Tories were worried just about money they needn't have done any of this. It's a real shame that so many people seem to be incapable of understanding this stuff but if someone is blinded in their hatred of the Tories then I suppose they can't be expected to be fair or balanced in their analysis. Surely the grants are means tested? My mates wife has a hair salon. She only has to pay wages for two girls as the other’s are “hiring a chair”. I’m not sure she’d get anywhere near £10k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, Sergeant Wilson said: Who is blindly agreeing? People I know! The types that post on FB “repost this if you’ve seen stayed in your home all weekend”, or looking out at neighbours who dare to go out twice a day instead of once 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 56 minutes ago, Steven W said: When you consider that the virus seemingly takes four weeks from catching it, to eventually killing someone, therefore it most probably was in USA in January, so every chance it's been prevalent in the UK since, maybe even early February A lot of people would have been travelling from Hubei province all over the world late last year and into January and with an R0 > 3 it would be surprising if the virus wasn't already in the UK and most other western countries with extensive air travel by late January If some of the random sampling antibody tests of the wider population that are being reported from Germany, Sweden and the United States are accurate (big if because the tests might not be specific enough for COVID19) then there could easily have already been over 50× as many infections as the official numbers based on testing. If most cases are mild or asymptomatic, it could also easily have taken many weeks to get enough serious cases on the go for the uptick on non-influenza pneumonia to be statistically noticeable in hospitals. The lockdown may turn out to be a case of locking the stable door well after the horse had already bolted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Our next-door neighbours currently having a nice wee garden party with the extended family. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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