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3 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

They have mayonnaise with their chips. If people aren’t interested in keeping a close eye on them then it’s an international dereliction of duty.

There is nothing wrong with mayonnaise on chips.  If you say there is I’ll tell my missus and you’ll quickly find out that nurses look very different to the photos you post.

 

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3 minutes ago, AUFC90 said:

They are worrying about the money that's exactly why they're trying there hardest to protect their tax base from being completely decimated. They aren't doing out of the kindness of their fluffy, cuddly hearts.

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That may be true but if we go into a severe recession, even a depression, who do you think will suffer most?

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Imagine thinking laura toryburg was anti government.
These people are out there. I appear to be connected to a heap of them on Linkedin for some reason.

"Are wunderful government is doing a great job! This is not the time to be asking difficult questions about PPE! Shame on the lefties. Get well soon Boris."

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1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

For all their mistakes, the Tories have done some good things in this crisis. They are voluntarily paying countless employees on furlough rather than have them on the dole (which would have been much much cheaper for the Tories). Millions of small business owners will just have had or soon will have non-repayable grants of either £10k or £25k paid straight into their bank accounts with the 80% average profit payments to kick in within 6 weeks. If the Tories were worried just about money they needn't have done any of this.

It's a real shame that so many people seem to be incapable of understanding this stuff but if someone is blinded in their hatred of the Tories then I suppose they can't be expected to be fair or balanced in their analysis.

 

1 hour ago, madwullie said:

Going to hold off on patting the tories on the back for doing something similar to most other Western governments regarding finding money to help businesses etc, especially as it would have caused much more harm to the economy just to let everyone get completely fucked financially losing their jobs / businesses and doing f**k all about it. 

Fully agree with madwullie, and it's also hilarious that this is being framed as some sort of grand charitable gesture from the Tories. Let's be very clear here, IT'S NOT THEIR FUCKING MONEY.

Aside from the fact that the entire economic structure our civilisation is based upon would have imploded had they not stepped in, this is not a case of Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, Sunak et al liquidating their assets or re-mortgaging to give to the poor in a sudden onset of philanthropy, this isn't a Christmas carol with Ebenezer Scrooge, and the funds aren't coming from Conservative Party HQ either, they're using tax payer money to provide what's required to avoid a cataclysmic financial meltdown .

I know Oaksoft is a troll, but there will be people that truly believe that shite. This is not the Tories offering up a socialist olive branch after a decade of obliterating public services, this is them doing exactly what they always do: what's in their best interests. They shouldn't receive any undue praise for it, and it doesn't come an iota close to hiding their horrific mismanagement / criminal negligence of this pandemic.

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13 minutes ago, madwullie said:

Btw apparently that's M&Ds going into admin. Payday tomorrow, lettered their employees today 

It's been a bit of a roller coaster ride for them.

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9 minutes ago, J_Stewart said:

 

Fully agree with madwullie, and it's also hilarious that this is being framed as some sort of grand charitable gesture from the Tories. Let's be very clear here, IT'S NOT THEIR FUCKING MONEY.

Aside from the fact that the entire economic structure our civilisation is based upon would have imploded had they not stepped in, this is not a case of Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, Sunak et al liquidating their assets or re-mortgaging to give to the poor in a sudden onset of philanthropy, this isn't a Christmas carol with Ebenezer Scrooge, and the funds aren't coming from Conservative Party HQ either, they're using tax payer money to provide what's required to avoid a cataclysmic financial meltdown .

I know Oaksoft is a troll, but there will be people that truly believe that shite. This is not the Tories offering up a socialist olive branch after a decade of obliterating public services, this is them doing exactly what they always do: what's in their best interests. They shouldn't receive any undue praise for it, and it doesn't come an iota close to hiding their horrific mismanagement / criminal negligence of this pandemic.

Every free-market conservative becomes a socialist when the market fails.  It’s a temporary phenomenon.

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That may be true but if we go into a severe recession, even a depression, who do you think will suffer most?

Got nothing to do with me addressing the fact Oaksoft is talking shite yet again. You can bet your boots if everyone on the dole was a net benefit to a Tory government that's exactly what they'd do.

 

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1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

Sounds like a bit of wishful thinking from the guy who designed the strategy to me. Not sure where he thinks the herd immunity is going to come from, especially as we don't yet know if immunity is a thing.

Agree that immunity is not certain but the numbers don't stack up too ridiculously, it would depend on who they're testing as to how far off ridiculous they are. 

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21 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

They have mayonnaise with their chips. If people aren’t interested in keeping a close eye on them then it’s an international dereliction of duty.

I had mayonnaise with chips for dinner last night. What's your problem?

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17 minutes ago, J_Stewart said:

 

They shouldn't receive any undue praise for it, and it doesn't come an iota close to hiding their horrific mismanagement / criminal negligence of this pandemic.

Ok I’ll bite. Much of the strategy to this is devolved; we all just happen to be on the same page.

What should Nicola be doing differently and should she similarly charged with ‘horrific mismanagement and criminal negligence’? 

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21 minutes ago, J_Stewart said:

 

Fully agree with madwullie, and it's also hilarious that this is being framed as some sort of grand charitable gesture from the Tories. Let's be very clear here, IT'S NOT THEIR FUCKING MONEY.

Aside from the fact that the entire economic structure our civilisation is based upon would have imploded had they not stepped in, this is not a case of Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, Sunak et al liquidating their assets or re-mortgaging to give to the poor in a sudden onset of philanthropy, this isn't a Christmas carol with Ebenezer Scrooge, and the funds aren't coming from Conservative Party HQ either, they're using tax payer money to provide what's required to avoid a cataclysmic financial meltdown .

I know Oaksoft is a troll, but there will be people that truly believe that shite. This is not the Tories offering up a socialist olive branch after a decade of obliterating public services, this is them doing exactly what they always do: what's in their best interests. They shouldn't receive any undue praise for it, and it doesn't come an iota close to hiding their horrific mismanagement / criminal negligence of this pandemic.

I don't want to white knight oaksoft, but that's a hell of a strawman you are attacking

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Waiting to get in big tesco, folk coughing up their lungs, couples practically shagging in the queues, folk standing close together discussing their family who work in ICU, I hate people. I won't be back for another fortnight

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Had a neighbour across from me letting their teenager out drinking most nights since lockdown. Currently I’m working in my bedroom and can here really loud coughing. Look out the window and the teenagers sitting in their garden coughing everywhere.

 

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2 minutes ago, Tynierose said:

Good shout auld yin, open the pubs for this weekend only also.

I could do my job as a football secretary on Saturday, go to the pub at night, maybe travel up North on Sunday then go back to work Monday.

Weekend sorted.

Drop into Dundee on the way past and I’ll buy you a pint let you buy me a pint.

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