Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[throbber]

7 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

My missus work for the NHS 

 I'm a key worker myself 

 

 

[welshbairn]

13 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

Even though I'm a key worker myself

Timpsons?

[bendan]

10 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

 

If they weren't appraised of the findings, why not? 

Shouldn't they also be doing their own appraisals of the preparedness of the devolved NHS? 

[NotThePars]

16 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

My missus work for the NHS but won't use her email to get me free shit as she feels bad about it or some rubbish like that.

Even though I'm a key worker myself keeping you lot safe and well.

 

 

Div made you a moderator?

[pandarilla]

If that's the case, there should be a public outcry, and people brought to account. There won't be, of course, and no doubt any (opposition) politician raising this will be howled down as a "traitor".
Were the devolved administrations appraised of this simulation and its findings? If so, do they not bear some responsibility for the fiasco?
If they weren't appraised of the findings, why not? 

It needs to be a key element of the next election campaign.

The Labour Party (and others) don't want to be seen to be too critical whilst we're still going through this but they better be stockpiling this stuff for later.

There were clearly issues that were ignored in terms of preparation, and when you add that to the austerity cutbacks it's surely going to be a major election issue.

The care homes situation fits into the long term issues one as well, but the last Labour government hardly covered themselves in glory either so less likely to be an election issue. The lack of a fully funded public service of care is a disgrace. Privatisation always fucks over those at the bottom, and when something like this happens the problem is magnified.

[Dee Man]

2 hours ago, Gaz said:

My exact words were "I don't want to squeeze past you". That's it. That's when he started getting shirty. I'd no intention of arguing so said to him "just you go ahead". The queues at Tesco are made from metal barriers. I was walking up the queue and he pulled two barriers apart and squeeze through to get ahead of me. Then he started making an issue again inside the store.

Shat it. 

[pandarilla]

In more positive news, the Swiss have allowed under 10s to hug grandparents, due to evidence they have that young kids don't really catch or spread this disease.

 

 

https://www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-52470838?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASDAAQE%3D#aoh=15881674356862&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

 

[Steven W]

4 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

In more positive news, the Swiss have allowed under 10s to hug grandparents, due to evidence they have that young kids don't really catch or spread this disease.

 

 

https://www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-52470838?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASDAAQE%3D#aoh=15881674356862&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

 

Don't get the feeling we'll (as in UK) be doing that. If anything our lockdown will be getting extended

[Jacksgranda]

9 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

It needs to be a key element of the next election campaign.

The Labour Party (and others) don't want to be seen to be too critical whilst we're still going through this but they better be stockpiling this stuff for later.

There were clearly issues that were ignored in terms of preparation, and when you add that to the austerity cutbacks it's surely going to be a major election issue.

The care homes situation fits into the long term issues one as well, but the last Labour government hardly covered themselves in glory either so less likely to be an election issue. The lack of a fully funded public service of care is a disgrace. Privatisation always fucks over those at the bottom, and when something like this happens the problem is magnified.

I can understand that, but how long do you wait?

Did they not used to be state owned/funded, or am I just imagining it?

Maybe they're a bit like the so called privatised railways which cost the taxpayer a fortune.

Edited April 29, 2020 by Jacksgranda
sllepnig

[NotThePars]

8 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

In more positive news, the Swiss have allowed under 10s to hug grandparents, due to evidence they have that young kids don't really catch or spread this disease.

 

 

https://www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-52470838?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASDAAQE%3D#aoh=15881674356862&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

 

Surprised the Tories haven't advocated this anyway to try and get more welfare dependents out of the way

[Granny Danger]

45 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

If that's the case, there should be a public outcry, and people brought to account. There won't be, of course, and no doubt any (opposition) politician raising this will be howled down as a "traitor".

Were the devolved administrations appraised of this simulation and its findings? If so, do they not bear some responsibility for the fiasco?

If they weren't appraised of the findings, why not? 

Just ran a Google search and there’s nothing to suggest Scottish government involvement with Cygnus.  Both the points you mention should be asked though.

31 minutes ago, bendan said:

Shouldn't they also be doing their own appraisals of the preparedness of the devolved NHS? 

From what I can see pandemic planning is not devolved.  Obviously such an occurrence has a huge impact on health, which is a devolved matter, but also goes way beyond that.

I think Jacksgranda’s point is more relevant.  Were they involved, were they appraised of the findings, if not why not?

 

[Steven W]

1 hour ago, SlipperyP said:

Singapore Uni has come up with some way of knowing when this will all end for each country

It's in Thai https://www.dailynews.co.th/regional/771668

This will only end when a vaccine is found - if indeed one is ever found

[madwullie]

1 hour ago, SlipperyP said:

Singapore Uni has come up with some way of knowing when this will all end for each country

It's in Thai https://www.dailynews.co.th/regional/771668

Heard on radio Scotland earlier that France are starting to come out on 11th May. 

Primary schools opening (under pretty strict conditions - and voluntary iirc), businesses starting to open. Masks mandatory on public transport, in shops etc. First sign of another spike they'll be locking back down again.

Edited April 29, 2020 by madwullie

[pandarilla]

Don't get the feeling we'll (as in UK) be doing that. If anything our lockdown will be getting extended

In the short term, i agree.

But if they're right, that allows nurseries and primary schools to almost reopen as normal, with staff following social distancing between themselves.

It's a big 'if' though - but time will tell.

[madwullie]

@Ross.

You about mate? Was his girlfriend not about to shit out a wean? 

[Dee Man]

I can't be the only one who feels like topping myself everytime I read a Steven W post?

Edited April 29, 2020 by Dee Man

[throbber]

2 minutes ago, Dee Man said:

I can't be the only one who feels like topping myself everytime I read a Steven W post?

Yip, change the record or piss off Steven W you absolute c**t!

 

[Ross.]

5 minutes ago, madwullie said:

@Ross.

You about mate? Was his girlfriend not about to shit out a wean? 

The boy was dropped just over 3 weeks ago, aye.

[bennett]

2 minutes ago, Ross. said:

The boy was dropped just over 3 weeks ago, aye.

Hope he's ok.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

27 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

It needs to be a key element of the next election campaign.

The Labour Party (and others) don't want to be seen to be too critical whilst we're still going through this but they better be stockpiling this stuff for later.

There were clearly issues that were ignored in terms of preparation, and when you add that to the austerity cutbacks it's surely going to be a major election issue.

The care homes situation fits into the long term issues one as well, but the last Labour government hardly covered themselves in glory either so less likely to be an election issue. The lack of a fully funded public service of care is a disgrace. Privatisation always fucks over those at the bottom, and when something like this happens the problem is magnified.

Some people need to be shown a poster - "This is a Socialist. This is Tony Blair. Can't tell the difference? Then you don't deserve a vote, you fucking simpleton. Away and watch X-factor and don't come whining when you're poor, ill or old."

Might not win many votes, but by Odin's Beard I've been holding it back too long.