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I’m hoping that the approval ratings are the result of a herd mentality of not wanting to be critical or appear partisan  in the midst of a national emergency.
The follow up to that being that once this is over people will take a more dispassionate and critical view of successive Tory governments (in)actions  prior to and during the crisis?
If so there will be a significant and justifiable backlash.  Particularly if there is a full and comprehensive public discussion about why the recommendations from Cygnus were effectively ignored.
That’s what I’m hoping.  I’m not sure it will happen.

There absolutely will be a backlash. My worry is the time the Government will have to recover from it given the next general election will be in 2024.
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2 minutes ago, DrewDon said:

 

Lies get halfway around the world before the truth gets the chance to put its pants on.

It doesn't matter. The damage has been done. This is the equivalent of going onto QT on November 8th without a poppy.

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A while back it was claimed that vitamin D helps fight off the virus. BAME and black people in particular have low Vit D levels apparently.

Not saying this guy is correct but quite a few people are saying the same thing. Low vit d can cause other illnesses in this ethnic group also.

 

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28 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

A while back it was claimed that vitamin D helps fight off the virus. BAME and black people in particular have low Vit D levels apparently.

Not saying this guy is correct but quite a few people are saying the same thing. 

To quote that Spectator article posted earlier

"In a study in Indonesia, Covid-19 cases with deficient vitamin D were an enormous 19 times more likely to die from the disease than people with adequate levels."

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Regarding the question from the first member of the public today. Why is it that Italy have less deaths when their health service was overwhelmed for a while?
If we had more people in hospital and getting treated then is this down to what? They said Italy it was all old people and mixing with kids and lots of  smokers. They just bend the rules or metrics to suit the agenda now. As mentioned why even show the slide if it’s not worth comparing?
 

Wasn’t Italy’s outbreak pretty much localised to Bergamo and the surrounding areas? Hence the health system in that area was overwhelmed and there was a lot of entirely preventable deaths.

The rest of the country only saw a fraction of the cases, whereas the UK’s outbreak is reasonably spread out across the UK.
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I have a family member who was due to move back to England this month but the renters living in their home are now refusing to move out on the agreed date.
There is a temporary ban on evictions so a family of 5 on modest earnings are stuck with nowhere to live and a mortgage to pay.

A taste of socialism in practice where anyone who owns a house is a capitalist pig.

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59 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

I have a family member who was due to move back to England this month but the renters living in their home are now refusing to move out on the agreed date.
There is a temporary ban on evictions so a family of 5 on modest earnings are stuck with nowhere to live and a mortgage to pay.

A taste of socialism in practice where anyone who owns a house is a capitalist pig.

And where TF are the renters supposed to go in the middle of a lockdown?

Calling this socialism is pure moon-howling stuff. What, is the government giving them the house?

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2 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

I have a family member who was due to move back to England this month but the renters living in their home are now refusing to move out on the agreed date.
There is a temporary ban on evictions so a family of 5 on modest earnings are stuck with nowhere to live and a mortgage to pay.

A taste of socialism in practice where anyone who owns a house is a capitalist pig.

I'm sure you could let them stay at your house.

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5 hours ago, Gaz said:

It won't happen.

British people have been conditioned their whole lives to be servile and subservient. It's in their nature - respect your elders, respect your betters, "gaw'd bless you, Guv'nor".

The Tories will get off with this Scot-free, and win another election in 2024.

Meanwhile, the 30% of Scots who will never, ever vote for independence because SNP BAD JIMMY KRANKIE WEE NIPPY WATP GSTQ FTP will keep us in this shambles of a union.

Is the correct answer ☝️

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10 hours ago, Stinky Bone said:

I watched the First ministers statement this afternoon and she made it clear that although the next review is on the 28th of May, it is not set in stone to be a 3 week lockdown.  

As far as I am aware the data is being reviewed on a daily basis, and as such so are decisions. 

I'll continue to consider the government's action of extending the lockdown for three full weeks more seriously than their mealy mouthed platitudes while doing it, thanks for playing anyway. 

7 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Their approval rate has been steadily climbing.

An astonishingly high number of people think they, and the PM, have handled this well.

That hasn't actually been true since the end of March. Both approval and confidence are much more evenly split and have been declining for weeks.

https://www.opinium.co.uk/public-opinion-on-coronavirus-27th-april/

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7 hours ago, Todd_is_God said:

I've said previously I don't particularly blame the govermment for acting on the limited information available at the time.

It's the refusal to adapt their approach by making use of the information available now i'm critical of.

Ignoring everything else, and taking this post as stand alone, I disagree with the first sentence but do agree with the second.

The time has come for both the U.K. and, more importantly from my point of view, the Scottish Governments to reassess policy based on the information that is now available.  More seems to have been gathered in England but the experiences in both countries have sufficient similarities for Scottish policy makers to utilise the English data as well as their own.

Looking at the age breakdown of deaths a one-size-fits-all approach to managing this crisis does not seem to be the best policy.  I do not want Nicola Sturgeon to bow to ‘populist’ pressure when determining policy, but equally I would not want her to start losing support and credibility by continuing to impose measure that individuals and businesses start ignoring.

 

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6 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Similar to Salmon tasting totally different to say Mackerel, I wonder if Beagle tastes different from say Collie ?

I believe Beagles may be the smoked variety and the Collies the unsmoked.  It works in the bacon world apparently.

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Criticising Neil ferguson's figures is all well and good, but firstly, noone has any idea what would have happened had we not locked down... Its hard to argue that it hasn't been effective in bringing the R0 down and mah have caused us to avoid the scenes in Italy. Secondly, if he was so badly discredited professionally due to models he created in the past being miles out, why on earth would the govt (although yes the are incompetents) have taken them on board in the first place. 

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Train companies ramping up services from 18 May in anticipation of an upturn in demand, that and the EBC continuing to insist that the stay at home mantra will be ditched from Monday all points to a fairly rapid removal of measures once it starts on Monday.

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8 hours ago, DrewDon said:

 

It is a total non story and every politician who is clapping is doing it just to show themselves up in a good light but it’s the kind of shit that gets used against people like him at any opportunity sadly.

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