Gordon EF Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said: Really? 220,000 cases and 32,000 deaths? Please point out my error. Almost everyone who'd died form it is included in the 32k. the majority of people who've contracted the virus, were almost certainly never tested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Doesn’t that equate to around 31,300 deaths, (219k cases divided by 7?) the current total being just over 31,800, are you saying it’s actually higher than 1 in 7, if the figures were being reported correctly? 1 in 6 = 36500 1 in 5 = 43800 etc.. That 219k figure is presumably just the ones who have been tested, the true figure is likely in the millions. 1 in 7 is more like for patients in ICU with it. Edited May 11, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 That 219k figure is presumably just the ones who have been tested, the true figure is likely in the millions. 1 in 7 is more like for patients in ICU with it.Yep fair enough, my misread, it look a worrying stat![emoji15] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 With all the effort going into a calculated variable (R0) you would think they might have some idea of the true infection rather at least how many orders of magnitude greater than # positive tests it is. There was something from America a couple of weeks back saying it's like 80 times as many cases as we know about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: Almost everyone who'd died form it is included in the 32k. the majority of people who've contracted the virus, were almost certainly never tested. OK. I was using 'official' figures. There are probably many who have died from it who weren't recorded as such. My original post was to point out the unlikelihood of catching it and dying, in the broad scheme of things. Counting the ones who were never tested makes it even more unlikely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iminavest Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said: This fucking thread The reply from 'Brexitguard' particularly amaused me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: With all the effort going into a calculated variable (R0) you would think they might have some idea of the true infection rather at least how many orders of magnitude greater than # positive tests it is. There was something from America a couple of weeks back saying it's like 80 times as many cases as we know about. Multiplying the deaths by 300/400 won't be a million miles away IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, ayrmad said: Multiplying the deaths by 300/400 won't be a million miles away IMO. Aye. To have a figure that they are willing to act or not act on in R0, someone must be having a stab at this. Would be interesting to know what they are working with in terms of actual infection rate. Suspect that if it's as high as we think, they wont release it as it would breed complacency. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 With all the effort going into a calculated variable (R0) you would think they might have some idea of the true infection rather at least how many orders of magnitude greater than # positive tests it is. There was something from America a couple of weeks back saying it's like 80 times as many cases as we know about. Before Calderwood committed career suicide, after the first 14 deaths in Scotland were recorded, they estimated that each death could represent up to 1000 infections.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-52006730/coronavirus-dr-catherine-calderwood-issues-warning-over-infection-rate&ved=2ahUKEwiloojN_6vpAhUTQ0EAHWtIA9MQFjAAegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw375fLFk0Y1S9hu2APMnUW-What it all means is that the figures have a huge margin of error, and have no chance if being right until there is a proper testing programme for those with symptoms, or an accurate antibody test for everyone who thinks they may have been infected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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welshbairn Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Multiplying the deaths by 300/400 won't be a million miles away IMO. Infections you mean presumably? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 It’s almost as if the #Torycunts are deliberately trying to misinform people to shift the blame when the second wave comes. Can you imagine Brenda and Roy in Rochdale even trying to comprehend any of this shambles? Faced with the option of staying in or going out, I wonder which option which they would choose? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the aggressive beggar Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Did Boris just tell every cnut in England to get in the sea? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bernardblack Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 So know you can go to the park etc and meet one member of family you don’t live with? As long as you stay 2m apart? Edit - that may be england only? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Granny Danger said: All this commuting on the M25is totally unnecessary. All of these people could buy houses closer to there work or get a job closer to where they live. Or they could just use public transport, which the rest of the country already subsidises to a massive degree to cater for the bloated metropolis of London (HS2; Crossrail; the Garden Bridge fiasco). People do not have a divine right to buy a house in some semi-rural, arse-end of Surrey and drive to their workplace in central London every day. The genuinely idiotic element in yesterday's briefing was the government actually telling people that if they want to go to work then they'd best drive in themselves for a while. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 oaksoft saying the government advice last night was easy to understand has already aged well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, the aggressive beggar said: Did Boris just tell every cnut in England to get in the sea? He really is King Cnut, isn't he? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Christ where did they find this c**t Starmer. He is an even bigger fucking bumbling idiot. These guys are leaders of political parties and their public speaking is fucking woeful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Facing a barrage of criticism over their new strategy, the UK government are moving their briefings to Edinburgh, with a new spokesperson, and a new, clearer message.... 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Fucking car crash TV coming from the house of commons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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