Michael W Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 There's no chance Cummings will resign. He has absolutely no regard at all for rules. Equally, Johnson won't sack him because he doesn't have it in him and Cummings is very useful shield to him. Expect they will double down on the childcare problem, claim the journey was necessaryand wait for it to fizzle out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Cummings won’t resign, Johnson won’t sack him, Tory voters won’t bother. You’re probably right. If he does resign we’ll need to find someone else to run the country. If we had a decent press his resignation would be an inevitability. Based on that premise alone he’ll remain in post. He’ll remain a c**t too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I'm certain after the Arcuri stuff and Cummings flagrant disregard for virtually everyone in and out of the Conservative Party that Johnson won't be PM going into the next election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 How did Cummings travel from London to Durham? By car with breaks would be bad enough. Train? Plane? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I'm certain after the Arcuri stuff and Cummings flagrant disregard for virtually everyone in and out of the Conservative Party that Johnson won't be PM going into the next election. We can but hope. He’ll be gutted to be increasingly regarded as more Chamberlain than Churchill but I’m unconvinced that those in the Tory party will care given the majority they have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: You’re probably right. If he does resign we’ll need to find someone else to run the country. If we had a decent press his resignation would be an inevitability. Based on that premise alone he’ll remain in post. He’ll remain a c**t too. I don’t agree, I think the MSM are doing a shit job but even if they weren’t Cummings wouldn’t go. Johnson won an election and a substantial majority not that long ago, at that election many ‘moderate’ Tories were replaced; he is in total control. Factor in Johnson’s whole entitled and untruthful approach to politics over many years and you realise that he is under no real pressure to act and doesn’t have the moral fortitude or character to do so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, NotThePars said: I'm certain after the Arcuri stuff and Cummings flagrant disregard for virtually everyone in and out of the Conservative Party that Johnson won't be PM going into the next election. The Tory party is an institution that cares about almost nothing other than a leader's ability to get them into power and stay there. Johnson needs to both fail badly on that front while a viable alternative emerges to replace him: that still looks a long shot before 2024. I wouldn't be too surprised if he decided to chuck it though, given the sheer number of shit v fan interactions that have built up now for the next few years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Don't see how they can ride this one out. Don't know how old his parents are, but driving up there with the virus and his possibly virulent son seems psychotic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I don’t agree, I think the MSM are doing a shit job but even if they weren’t Cummings wouldn’t go. Johnson won an election and a substantial majority not that long ago, at that election many ‘moderate’ Tories were replaced; he is in total control. Factor in Johnson’s whole entitled and untruthful approach to politics over many years and you realise that he is under no real pressure to act and doesn’t have the moral fortitude or character to do so.Yes there is something in what you say. A really good press wouldn’t let this go but they’re all so scared of upsetting their advertisers that sustained pressure from all but a small proportion of the MSM is probably unrealistic. It’s depressing stuff. To me the biggest problem is that as things stand an unprincipled man who has always hidden from any scrutiny has a mandate to be PM until 2024. The Tory party won’t want to change that by challenging his failures and no other group is on a position to meaningfully change that dynamic. It might just be that the inner Tory sanctum might be prepared to sacrifice Cummings but I suspect not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Nothing will happen. Nothing ever happens. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Nothing will happen. Nothing ever happens.I suspect you are correct but if the Tory hierarchy think there’s a benefit to him going then he’ll be gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Nothing will happen. Nothing ever happens.The needle might return to the start of the song and we’ll all sing along like before? 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: The needle might return to the start of the song and we’ll all sing along like before? You’ll have to explain that one for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 The needle might return to the start of the song and we’ll all sing along like before?And we'll all be lonely tonight and lonely tomorrow. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I'm certain after the Arcuri stuff and Cummings flagrant disregard for virtually everyone in and out of the Conservative Party that Johnson won't be PM going into the next election. You're an optimist. Nothing will happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snobot Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Angry from Monifieth (?) writes to complain about all the repeats on TV Edited May 22, 2020 by Snobot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Andrew Lilico currently making the best defence of Cummings with "he actually lived in one house before living in another before moving back and living in his original home therefore he never actually "visited" anywhere." Galaxy brain stuff I love it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Andrew Lilico currently making the best defence of Cummings with "he actually lived in one house before living in another before moving back and living in his original home therefore he never actually "visited" anywhere." Galaxy brain stuff I love it.Yep it’s great stuff. If it wasn’t so depressing it would be funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Distant Doonhamer said: Yep it’s great stuff. If it wasn’t so depressing it would be funny. I can't even criticise it I wish I had the brain that led me to post this stuff out into the wild every day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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