Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[welshbairn]

 

[GiGi]

Too bad it'll just be some bullshit statement about following the rules same as you and me, and no questions from pesky journos who might be out to show him up in front of a few million folk. Horrible, horrible c***s.

[heedthebaa]

16 minutes ago, The DA said:

Like a sister just round the corner?

No offence here, but I don’t think you’re getting it. It’s not just about having specialist training with kids that have certain needs, a lot is about familiarity. If he’s fighting this one out, he’s definitely using the kid

[Gaz]

1 minute ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

Only if it's true.

It doesn't need to be true. No-one's going to ask him to prove it. A doctor isn't going to come out and say "well, actually...". It's a hidden condition for most in that people don't 'look' autistic.

[GiGi]

2 minutes ago, Gaz said:

It doesn't need to be true. No-one's going to ask him to prove it. A doctor isn't going to come out and say "well, actually...". It's a hidden condition for most in that people don't 'look' autistic.

Next question: "So it's ok for other parents with autistic children to flout government rules and travel hundreds of miles by car while knowingly infected with coronavirus?"

Don't see how autism is a freebie for Cummings here.

[Mark Connolly]

3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

 

Call me a cynic, but random story appearing, testing the public response, then being withdrawn or doubled down depending on the response is very Cummings.

[Granny Danger]

3 minutes ago, Gaz said:

The autism thing is the perfect excuse. It immediately lets all the things he's done fall into the "permitted" category, and also gives BoJo an out as to why he didn't discuss it yesterday (not his place to discuss someone else's child's medical conditions). No journalist is going to ask for proof.

It is absolutely bulletproof.

One in 100 people in the U.K. are autistic.  250,000 people in the U.K. have tested positive for COVID-19.  The overlap between the two must be significant.

Logic dictates therefore that many vulnerable parents have suffered the same dilemma as Cummings and his wife.  Many other parents will have similar, though different, serious issues to deal with.  Such people have coped with this at the government’s behest rather than doing what they did.

Also his son’s autism, if true, does not excuse his trip to Barnard Castle.  That is not bulletproof.

[Gaz]

2 minutes ago, GiGi said:

Next question: "So it's ok for other parents with autistic children to flout government rules and travel hundreds of miles by car while knowingly infected with coronavirus?"

Don't see how autism is a freebie for Cummings here.

"I'm not here to talk about other families. You were all interested in mine. That's what I'm here to talk about."

[Ludo*1]

3 minutes ago, GiGi said:

Next question: "So it's ok for other parents with autistic children to flout government rules and travel hundreds of miles by car while knowingly infected with coronavirus?"

Don't see how autism is a freebie for Cummings here.

Either do I - but I suspect many people will.

[Florentine_Pogen]

3 minutes ago, Gaz said:

It doesn't need to be true. No-one's going to ask him to prove it. A doctor isn't going to come out and say "well, actually...". It's a hidden condition for most in that people don't 'look' autistic.

I think we may be slightly at cross-purposes here Gaz. My knowledge of autism and it's manifestations are minimal and I get your point re. medical confidentiality.

My question is to just how mendacious and venal the Cummings / Johnson axis would have to be to use a child with a phantom medical condition in order to save your political skin.

[doulikefish]

Seems strange that all the pet poodle journos etc that nobody has mentioed autism before if indeed it is the case 

[Gaz]

3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

1) One in 100 people in the U.K. are autistic.  250,000 people in the U.K. have tested positive for COVID-19.  The overlap between the two must be significant.

Logic dictates therefore that many vulnerable parents have suffered the same dilemma as Cummings and his wife.  Many other parents will have similar, though different, serious issues to deal with.  Such people have coped with this at the government’s behest rather than doing what they did.

2) Also his son’s autism, if true, does not excuse his trip to Barnard Castle.  That is not bulletproof.

1) Agree completely.

2) Disagree. We are allowed to drive out of our area for recreation. That's what he'll say.

Apologies for the formatting, I'm on my phone.

Edited May 25, 2020 by Gaz

[GiGi]

Just now, Gaz said:

"I'm not here to talk about other families. You were all interested in mine. That's what I'm here to talk about."

Just sounds like another open goal. One rule for your family etc.

He obviously won't be taking any questions because he isn't accountable to the public and because it would be massively embarrassing for him and Johnson.

[MuckleMoo]

It doesn't need to be true. No-one's going to ask him to prove it. A doctor isn't going to come out and say "well, actually...". It's a hidden condition for most in that people don't 'look' autistic.

Your right, a doctor wouldn't but if this is the route they're going down and it's not true it will shirley come out some how. You would think it would have been common knowledge around Westminster if it was true. There's also friends/enemy's and family who might be tempted to leak to the press

[welshbairn]

2 minutes ago, Gaz said:

2) Disagree. We are allowed to drive out of our area for recreation. That's what he'll say.

Not back in April for a 60 mile trip we weren't.

Edited May 25, 2020 by welshbairn

[Dan Steele]

23 minutes ago, dirty dingus said:

Neil Oliver

Anyone happy about mob behaviour directed at anyone should just block or mute me now and be done with it.

Anyone who hasn't thought of ignoring that balloon before now should take a good look at themselves.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

No, both my girls (5 and 7) are still in nappies / pullups. This is quite common for kids with autism.

I meant for you.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

2 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

I think we may be slightly at cross-purposes here Gaz. My knowledge of autism and it's manifestations are minimal and I get your point re. medical confidentiality.

My question is to just how mendacious and venal the Cummings / Johnson axis would have to be to use a child with a phantom medical condition in order to save your political skin.

I can imagine the child's next visit to the GP might be a bit uncomfortable for the parents.

'When did I diagnose autism in you child?'

[Gaz]

2 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

Seems strange that all the pet poodle journos etc that nobody has mentioed autism before if indeed it is the case 

Yes, very. It seems to have started from someone 'mishearing' a news report on LBC yesterday.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

One in 100 people in the U.K. are autistic.  250,000 people in the U.K. have tested positive for COVID-19.  The overlap between the two must be significant.
Logic dictates therefore that many vulnerable parents have suffered the same dilemma as Cummings and his wife.  Many other parents will have similar, though different, serious issues to deal with.  Such people have coped with this at the government’s behest rather than doing what they did.
Also his son’s autism, if true, does not excuse his trip to Barnard Castle.  That is not bulletproof.

If also does not excuse travelling back to London then back Durham and back to London again.

He was in London on 14 April when he should have still been in isolation.