ICTJohnboy Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Gaz said: Do you genuinely believe people believe this is the biggest crisis in modern history? I genuinely believe a school teacher should know the difference between Modern History and Modern Studies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: I genuinely believe a school teacher should know the difference between Modern History and Modern Studies. I'm a maths teacher. I'm pretty sure my history / modern studies teacher colleagues won't know the difference between a Maclaurin Expansion and a Binomial Expansion. My point, which I'm (admittedly badly) trying to make, is that when people make claims such as this being the worst thing in modern history, I don't think they're meaning in the literal definition of modern history, which goes back about 500 years. I think they're meaning since WW2. I don't think anyone truly believes this is worse than WW2. And my reason for thinking that is (as I've explained) WW2 is taught in history, and post-WW2 is modern studies. I don't think that's too wild a thing to claim for anyone who isn't a historian. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Gaz said: I'm a maths teacher. I'm pretty sure my history / modern studies teacher colleagues won't know the difference between a Maclaurin Expansion and a Binomial Expansion. My point, which I'm (admittedly badly) trying to make, is that when people make claims such as this being the worst thing in modern history, I don't think they're meaning in the literal definition of modern history, which goes back about 500 years. I think they're meaning since WW2. I don't think anyone truly believes this is worse than WW2. And my reason for thinking that is (as I've explained) WW2 is taught in history, and post-WW2 is modern studies. I don't think that's too wild a thing to claim for anyone who isn't a historian. When I did modern studies it included a module on China that started in 1911 with the overthrow on the Qing dynasty. Certainly wasn't restricted to post WWII. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Just now, MixuFruit said: I was meaning the 1918 flu 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Surely climate change is the answer anyways. Unless I'm misunderstanding this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gaz said: I'm a maths teacher. I'm pretty sure my history / modern studies teacher colleagues won't know the difference between a Maclaurin Expansion and a Binomial Expansion. My point, which I'm (admittedly badly) trying to make, is that when people make claims such as this being the worst thing in modern history, I don't think they're meaning in the literal definition of modern history, which goes back about 500 years. I think they're meaning since WW2. I don't think anyone truly believes this is worse than WW2. And my reason for thinking that is (as I've explained) WW2 is taught in history, and post-WW2 is modern studies. I don't think that's too wild a thing to claim for anyone who isn't a historian. Good explanation, thanks. I would agree this Pandemic isn't worse than WW2, but given the quality of those in government dealing with the situation, don't hold your breath! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, strichener said: When I did modern studies it included a module on China that started in 1911 with the overthrow on the Qing dynasty. Certainly wasn't restricted to post WWII. Pretty sure we did the League of Nations too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I'm a maths teacher. I'm pretty sure my history / modern studies teacher colleagues won't know the difference between a Maclaurin Expansion and a Binomial Expansion.But you would expect them to know the difference between statistics and geometry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Is that the EIS offering their members to help with vaccination program. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Pretty sure we did the League of Nations too. Maybe you could explain it to Willie Miller then? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Gaz said: I'm a maths teacher. I'm pretty sure my history / modern studies teacher colleagues won't know the difference between a Maclaurin Expansion and a Binomial Expansion. My point, which I'm (admittedly badly) trying to make, is that when people make claims such as this being the worst thing in modern history, I don't think they're meaning in the literal definition of modern history, which goes back about 500 years. I think they're meaning since WW2. I don't think anyone truly believes this is worse than WW2. And my reason for thinking that is (as I've explained) WW2 is taught in history, and post-WW2 is modern studies. I don't think that's too wild a thing to claim for anyone who isn't a historian. You keep hearing people saying, it's like a disaster movie, with the strain 2, etc Ie, as you say, since the second world war, life's been a bit of a cake walk and most people can't relate to anything bad happening (which pre ww2 was normal) without reference to a disaster movie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 hours ago, mizfit said: If When we f**k up the roll out of vaccines then heads must roll. No questions asked. There you go 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) Yeehah! We are absolute cowboys - aren't we? Quote PHE says it is reasonable to mix the two approved vaccines in exceptional circumstances “If your first dose is the Pfizer vaccine you should not be given the AstraZeneca vaccine for your second dose and vice versa. There may be extremely rare occasions where the same vaccine is not available, or where it is not known what vaccine the patient received. “Every effort should be made to give them the same vaccine, but where this is not possible it is better to give a second dose of another vaccine than not at all.” or where it is not known what vaccine the patient received - WTF Edited January 2, 2021 by btb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Gaz said: I'm a maths teacher. I'm pretty sure my history / modern studies teacher colleagues won't know the difference between a Maclaurin Expansion and a Binomial Expansion. My point, which I'm (admittedly badly) trying to make, is that when people make claims such as this being the worst thing in modern history, I don't think they're meaning in the literal definition of modern history, which goes back about 500 years. I think they're meaning since WW2. I don't think anyone truly believes this is worse than WW2. And my reason for thinking that is (as I've explained) WW2 is taught in history, and post-WW2 is modern studies. I don't think that's too wild a thing to claim for anyone who isn't a historian. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, btb said: Yeehah! We are absolute cowboys - aren't we? or where it is not known what vaccine the patient received - WTF I think for that, you can read "England" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: I think for that, you can read "England" We can only hope but who's gonna be in charge of sending the different vaccines to all the various destinations? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I'm sure a qualified historian will be along any minute to properly define the term "modern history," don't worry lads. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Yeehah! We are absolute cowboys - aren't we? PHE says it is reasonable to mix the two approved vaccines in exceptional circumstances “If your first dose is the Pfizer vaccine you should not be given the AstraZeneca vaccine for your second dose and vice versa. There may be extremely rare occasions where the same vaccine is not available, or where it is not known what vaccine the patient received. “Every effort should be made to give them the same vaccine, but where this is not possible it is better to give a second dose of another vaccine than not at all.” or where it is not known what vaccine the patient received - WTFThis vaccine roll out is going to be a monumental f**k up, you just know it. Barely started to vaccinate the population and you get the feeling the wheels are already starting to come off. I hope I'm wrong, I really do but the excitement and relief of the vaccines being approved has already evaporated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Batches of Oxford vaccine have begun to arrive at hospitals according to Sky News. Begs the question why they're not starting the process tomorrow (or tonight even)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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