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Derry Alli

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I don't feel like that was intended to apply to cases where the player continues to extend his arm out towards the ball after the deflection. The logical extension of their argument here is that if it deflects off your body you can catch the ball and throw it out of the box.

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There is one angle where you can see the ball just touches off his thigh and then on to his hand. So it's the correct decision, a very good spot by them actually.

I think the ball would have hit his arm regardless of the touch though, which does make the law seem a bit ridiculous here.

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3 minutes ago, The Master said:

This new interpretation of offside with the “shirt line” is nonsense. 

As the commentator just noted, Ings might well have been onside if he hadn’t been wearing a black armband. 

Also, absolutely zero scrutiny, despite the margins and Nth degree analysis of shirts, of the point at which the ball was played. Shambles, and tbh, they are getting he league they deserve

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5 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Also, absolutely zero scrutiny, despite the margins and Nth degree analysis of shirts, of the point at which the ball was played. Shambles, and tbh, they are getting he league they deserve

Yes, that’s a big issue as well. 

50fps is not fast enough to give offside with such narrow margins. 

When it’s that close, they should just defer to the on-field decision. Which wouldn’t have changed things tonight, of course. 

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2 minutes ago, The Master said:

Yes, that’s a big issue as well. 

50fps is not fast enough to give offside with such narrow margins. 

Its total nonsense. They obviously could be using super high speed cameras, but to apply such ludicrous margins to the attacker but not the playing of the ball is just ridiculous.

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We got away with that. Makes up for the decisions that have gone against us in recent matches. Notably Man City when they changed the rules just for one game, then clarified that they hadn't oh no honest guv.

Delighted with that win, Southampton are a good side. 

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Man City have had a reasonably favourable run of fixtures lately, but they've made the most of it with 8 wins on the spin. A few tougher fixtures coming up with Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal in the next 3 weeks. They are looking favourites at the moment as they have found consistency that nobody else can find.

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4 hours ago, The Master said:

Yes, that’s a big issue as well. 

50fps is not fast enough to give offside with such narrow margins. 

When it’s that close, they should just defer to the on-field decision. Which wouldn’t have changed things tonight, of course. 

The current 'on-field decision' is consciously influenced by the availability of VAR though. They do not stick a flag up for offside to halt an attack while ongoing (which is an overall bonus) but can then stick it up after the move has concluded if there is doubt either way, safe in the knowledge that VAR will make the final call. That's not the same as making an authentic on-field decision. 

Given the greater benefit of letting attacks play out in football, I'm not sure that a 'decision on the field must be deferred to' model makes sense then. It works okay in the NFL and similar sports because their play predictably breaks down and the officials can then throw in penalties that directly impact the next phase of the game either way. Football is far too fluid for this to work.

ETA: Perhaps you could create a protocol using earpieces for the assistant to call their instant judgment of offside while letting play continue and use that as the genuine on-field decision to challenge/overturn in the case of marginal calls. That's not where we're at right now though. 

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