welshbairn Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 5 minutes ago, MEADOWXI said: So hope he loses the GE vote, Having to limp back into Holyrood as a backbench MSP for a seat he has said he was happy to give up when he thought he saw something better/more profitable on the horizon and it's all blown up in his face with no leadership, no expenses funded trips to London, and FMQs having so little to do with him he'll be sitting at the back scribbling FML. What a cock. You'd have to imagine that tories who liked the sitting MP will be staying at home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 I hope he wins the seat, goes to Westminster, becomes leader of the UK Tories and continues the annihilation from within. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: You'd have to imagine that tories who liked the sitting MP will be in a home. FTFY 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 (edited) 43 minutes ago, A Diamond For Me said: The SNP should really fancy their chances in that seat now. Tories have a notional majority of 2,399. National polling has the Tories down from about 25% to 15%, SNP down from about 45% to 30%, so the Tories should hold it. There aren't many votes to squeeze here, both Lib Dems and Labour got under 5% last time. There's a Reform candidate in the seat which should hurt the Tories more than anyone else, and no Green candidate. Notional turnout was 64.2%; it may be that a good knock-up wins this seat. Electoral Calculus predict Labour to get 27% of the vote here despite them not getting more than 15% in Banff & Buchan since 1970, yet people still use that site as a source. Edited June 10 by GordonS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 11 minutes ago, GordonS said: Tories have a notional majority of 2,399. National polling has the Tories down from about 25% to 15%, SNP down from about 45% to 30%, so the Tories should hold it. There aren't many votes to squeeze here, both Lib Dems and Labour got under 5% last time. There's a Reform candidate in the seat which should hurt the Tories more than anyone else, and no Green candidate. Notional turnout was 64.2%; it may be that a good knock-up wins this seat. Electoral Calculus predict Labour to get 27% of the vote here despite them not getting more than 15% in Banff & Buchan since 1970, yet people still use that site as a source. Brexit was a significant issue in the last election, but subsequent developments may have shifted many opinions. Additionally, constituency boundaries have changed, likely to the advantage of the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: Probably Stephen Kerr. He's certainly enough of a c**t. And , let us not forget, he was said by the Scottish Parliament website to be a potato with more vitamin c than a lemon. It is quite remarkable really, as every time I see him on the Parliament TV feed, he looks as if he has been sucking lemons for weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Horrible Tory cuunt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 It cannot be overstated how much of an own goal Ross has scored here. Let’s not forget that prior to this campaign, Douglas Ross was relatively popular in Scottish Tory circles. He took over a struggling party less than a year before the last election and managed to retain all 31 of their seats. Whilst they aren’t doing well in the national polling, they were hopeful of retaining all six Westminster seats and possibly gaining a seventh seat, and they are less than two years out from the next Holyrood election where they’d be looking to exert significant influence given the likely hung parliament that the polls are pointing to. All Ross had to do is lead the campaign on TV without actually standing. Instead, he gets the jitters about having only 3 jobs instead of 4, kicks out his unwell colleague, and destroys his own reputation. Ross isn’t going to win the seat. This manoeuvre will cost the Tories both pro union tactical votes, and those who were going to vote for Duguid because he’s locally popular. If Ross really wanted to stand, he should have stood in Moray West. He’s now lost his leadership career over it and it’s going to be very difficult for him to persuade the party to put him top of the list in 2026 because he’s clearly demonstrated a disdain for Holyrood. What an absolute farce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Meanwhile at Scottish Tory HQ.. *SIGH* it's gonna have to be Murdo again... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Get the fucking Forres tents up ya hoors. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, betting competition said: Brexit was a significant issue in the last election, but subsequent developments may have shifted many opinions. Additionally, constituency boundaries have changed, likely to the advantage of the Tories. The figures I used are on the new boundaries. The new boundaries are a little worse for the Tories than the previous Banff & Buchan seat and better for the SNP because it brings in Keith and Buckie, and loses the farming country around and south of Turriff. The majority in that old seat was 4,118 but it's notionally 2,399 now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: This reeks of somebody who would rather not have any more scrutiny of his expenses claims. Nail on the head there, and it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't turn up for FMQs this week saying that he is campaigning for the westminster seat, a horrible disgrace of a man who made so much noise over Mathieson and his expenses claim. A jumped up little disreputable opportunist shit from a working class background who saw the tories as a vehicle to make dishonest money and get away with it. I know for a fact he is despised among all of the political organisations in Moray. And among the political leaders at Holyrood where he is seen as a shit stirrer. Edited June 10 by SandyCromarty 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: You'd have to imagine that tories who liked the sitting MP will be staying at home. Hopefully Duguid now declares he will stand as an independent candidate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 It'd be funny if it turns out he's claimed the same expenses from Holyrood & Westminster - not unbelievable either! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, Lurkst said: Hopefully Duguid now declares he will stand as an independent candidate. I reckon he’ll be under huge pressure not todo this. Maybe the promise of a wee gong in the Honours List. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 2 hours ago, Lurkst said: Hopefully Duguid now declares he will stand as an independent candidate. 59 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I reckon he’ll be under huge pressure not todo this. Maybe the promise of a wee gong in the Honours List. It’s too late to sign up as a candidate anyway, the deadline was 4pm on Friday, but Duguid wouldn’t stand as an independent as it will disqualify him from running for the Conservatives in a future election. It’s a stick on that he will run for Holyrood in a couple of years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 That short interview clip on STV news looks like TV gold already. The full thing is on Scotland Tonight and I might just go out and buy a TV to watch it. Ross is going to hang himself live on national television and it'll be stupendous viewing. The boy interviewing him seems to be gunning for him as well. This will be more memorable and iconic than the moon landings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 9 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: This reeks of somebody who would rather not have any more scrutiny of his expenses claims. The expenses are Westminster ones, so it makes no sense to be staying there for that reason. I think it's more likely that he knows that the Tories will lose a lot of seats in Holyrood next time round (it'll be a straight fight between SNP and Labour) so he'll be seen as a failure as leader, so by resigning his Holyrood seat he can avoid that. By taking a Westminster seat he not only keeps the "bigger" job, if he wins he'll be one of maybe only 100 or so Conservative MPs (at least the reasonably sane ones) and might be Shadow Scottish Secretary and someone seen as a big player in the rump of the party. 8 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Regardless of what happens this stink will follow him around for some time. As the BBC report says, “When a party leader announces their resignation in the middle of an election campaign, you know something has gone very wrong.” Is he the leader in this context though? Isn't the nominal Scottish leader at Westminster the Secretary of State for Scotland? Even so, it's not like he's in any actual leadership role in this election. It would be like a councilor quitting during the election cycle - much ado about hee haw. Will barely register down south. 3 hours ago, Lurkst said: Hopefully Duguid now declares he will stand as an independent candidate. He can't, nominations are closed. Ross will be up asgisnt a recently retired ex-Celtic goalkeeper amongst others... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 29 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said: The expenses are Westminster ones, so it makes no sense to be staying there for that reason. I think it's more likely that he knows that the Tories will lose a lot of seats in Holyrood next time round (it'll be a straight fight between SNP and Labour) so he'll be seen as a failure as leader, so by resigning his Holyrood seat he can avoid that. By taking a Westminster seat he not only keeps the "bigger" job, if he wins he'll be one of maybe only 100 or so Conservative MPs (at least the reasonably sane ones) and might be Shadow Scottish Secretary and someone seen as a big player in the rump of the party. Is he the leader in this context though? Isn't the nominal Scottish leader at Westminster the Secretary of State for Scotland? Even so, it's not like he's in any actual leadership role in this election. It would be like a councilor quitting during the election cycle - much ado about hee haw. Will barely register down south. He can't, nominations are closed. Ross will be up asgisnt a recently retired ex-Celtic goalkeeper amongst others... Ex Aberdeen full back Shay Logan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Twelve Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, Suspect Device said: Ex Aberdeen full back Shay Logan. Former Dumbarton goal machine Andrew Brown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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