stressball Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Here’s a flip scenario. Before the season Rangers are notified by the SPFL that they won’t be allowed to play at Ibrox this season due to existing concerns. Rangers go okay, let us know and we'll get it sorted. Nothing happens. The SPFL then refuse to allow games to take place at Ibrox without telling Rangers what the existing concern is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 47 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: The SFA in theory just facilitate an arbitration I believe. The judgement will be independent. It often gets reported that the SFA are the arbiters when that’s clearly not the case. It IS an SFA arbitration, in that it's done using their rulebook and on their terms - the judges interpreting the rulebook are independents, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I hope that the arbitration proceedings and evidence are published. Transparency is essential here and any party pushing for confidentiality clearly has something to hide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, coprolite said: How does it work Joey? I can't be bothered looking it up and had assumed from how it was reported it was a binding arbitration. Is it more of a mediation? It's the same as the Hearts/Thistle thing last year. The SFA, in conjunction with the clubs involved, appoint an independent panel, who make a binding decision. The SFA have no say whatsoever in the decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Has Tom English taken a position on this yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I hear that the release date of FIFA 22 has been pushed back, initially it was down to being unsure where Messi would end up but recently EA have been rocked by this sponsorship row and are delaying launch until it's resolved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, ropy said: Has Tom English taken a position on this yet? Ann Budge has been dingying his calls so he isnt sure which side she wants him to take yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 8 hours ago, coprolite said: I hope that the arbitration proceedings and evidence are published. Transparency is essential here and any party pushing for confidentiality clearly has something to hide. Fairly sure arbitration evidence isn't published. Not sure why it's essential either. If you don't believe the judgement passed by 3 independent, professional, fully qualified legal experts what difference does it make publishing the evidence? You still won't believe it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Cinch can now be added to the Other People who can be blamed for any setback experienced by Old Firm (Ibrox) plc. Like tonight's... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I feel terrible about this whole situation. Poor Cinch. Poor Doncaster, my heart is bleeding for the suffering we have heaped on all of you genuine football fans on here. We all love this game, the sport is beautiful and Rangers are ruining all of this with our refusal to wear a brand name on the sleeve of our jersey. I hope those playing in Europe this week can still enjoy their games. Malmö certainly did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyDickFingers Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said: Fairly sure arbitration evidence isn't published. Not sure why it's essential either. If you don't believe the judgement passed by 3 independent, professional, fully qualified legal experts what difference does it make publishing the evidence? You still won't believe it. Why wouldn't i believe evidence? Obviously transparency's not technically essential, but if they want fans, other clubs, other sponsors to believe that justice has been done then as much should be public domain as possible. Otherwise there will be a significant number of people that believe that either Rangers have been wronged or that Rangers operate under different rules. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 You can't just release a bunch of commercially sensitive information purely on the basis of "but fans want to know". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 18 hours ago, kingjoey said: It's the same as the Hearts/Thistle thing last year. The SFA, in conjunction with the clubs involved, appoint an independent panel, who make a binding decision. The SFA have no say whatsoever in the decision. As I remember it each party selects a panel member from the SFA list and they in turn have to agree on a third. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmen Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 You can't just release a bunch of commercially sensitive information purely on the basis of "but fans want to know".You absolutely right but you’d think the commercial contract that’s causing the issue is a sponsorship deal and the company would want that to be public knowledge, it’s kind of what sponsorship is all about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 The company don't want people to know what they're paying, or all the terms and conditions of their contract. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie greatness Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I see cockwobble is back to “the prize money may not be able to be payed out” …where have we heard that before! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 49 minutes ago, Gorgie greatness said: I see cockwobble is back to “the prize money may not be able to be payed out” …where have we heard that before! Was it when Hearts, Partick and Stranraer all got relegated at the end of a season as objectively the worst team in their division? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 51 minutes ago, Gorgie greatness said: I see cockwobble is back to “the prize money may not be able to be payed out” …where have we heard that before! Was he wrong? We will never know as they called the leagues, Hearts got relegated and everyone got their money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu92 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Gorgie greatness said: I see cockwobble is back to “the prize money may not be able to be payed out” …where have we heard that before! He's probably on to something if cinch decided to go home and take their money with them on account of their sponsorship requirements not being met. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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