Jacksgranda Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said: I am in no way a royalist and post this queen, I think the Royal family either needs to swiftly adapt or it will cease to exist, but what I would say is that the Queen has had a purpose more of late than probably any other time in last 25 years. Not by just being queen and whatever people take from that, but more by her actions during this pandemic. When the chips were down, she has been far more in tune with the people than the government of the day could ever dream to be. From a restricted funeral for her husband to the self isolations this Christmas, she has done what the vast majority of us have done. Does not excuse many other wrongs, but she could have, if she wanted to, not bothered and got away with it. I don't take much action from her lead, but a lot, particularly elderly, people in the country do and there will be some who will have acted as a result, which may have helped save people from very different Christmases. What it does for a lot of those in government who oppose such restrictions is put them in an awkward position. Either the queen is a weak sheep or they are at odds with her. Do I care what she says in her speech? Not really, do I care what she ate for Christmas Dinner? No. But do I think she has filled some of the void in leadership this last year on covid vacated by the government? Yes. There were hundreds of military personnel tramping about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, btb said: Spent the bulk of her reign protecting her own interest, she's used the "Queens Consent" to seek changes to proposed legislation over 1000 times - that's the hard truth. Buttttt … sHe’S NeVeR pUt a FoOt WrOnG!!!!! It’s easy to appear never to have to put a foot wrong when you have an enormous PR team mediating your every public performance, and when you have a veil of secrecy thrown over your every action, supported entirely by the legal system. The greedy old b*****d became the first monarch to arrange a (secret) agreement with the PM (Churchill) to avoid paying tax. She wouldn’t start until the 90s, and then on a voluntary basis, when she was caught further trying to gouge money out of the public. It looks to me like, in the 50s, she was shitting herself that the people would one day see through the scam and boot her and her family out - and so she set about fleecing her subjects whilst she could. She must be pissing herself at the continued fawning from the more cretinous amongst us. The old woman is and always has been an utter spiv, interested only in building up her personal assets. For a God-botherer, she seems unaware of Matthew 19:24) although probably God told her it doesn’t apply to her, because she is His special Lieutenant on Earth). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 The OP must be having a right good chuckle at this thread, given that he hasn't contributed anything since his original post. Lex, you're an old rascal, now bugger off! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Dunfermline Don said: I personally have nothing against HM as she seems like a sweet old lady who has plenty of interesting stories to tell, just like my Gran was when she was alive and many other senior citizens in this country. However I do object to all those who elevate her as some sort of superhero to be worshipped. I am dreading her passing if the media frenzy when the DOE went is anything to go by. I would probably avoid social media for a month afterwards. It would be nice to think the Monarchy will end with her and I am sure Charlie may do his best to ensure that happens. What would be interesting is if there was some disaster struck them and Harry somehow became next in line. It may be worth Megan and him taking the throne just to see the reaction from Daily Mail readers. It couldn't be any worse than the reaction from P&B's anti-monarchists following yesterdays Queens speech! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said: I am in no way a royalist and post this queen, I think the Royal family either needs to swiftly adapt or it will cease to exist, but what I would say is that the Queen has had a purpose more of late than probably any other time in last 25 years. Not by just being queen and whatever people take from that, but more by her actions during this pandemic. When the chips were down, she has been far more in tune with the people than the government of the day could ever dream to be. From a restricted funeral for her husband to the self isolations this Christmas, she has done what the vast majority of us have done. Does not excuse many other wrongs, but she could have, if she wanted to, not bothered and got away with it. I don't take much action from her lead, but a lot, particularly elderly, people in the country do and there will be some who will have acted as a result, which may have helped save people from very different Christmases. What it does for a lot of those in government who oppose such restrictions is put them in an awkward position. Either the queen is a weak sheep or they are at odds with her. Do I care what she says in her speech? Not really, do I care what she ate for Christmas Dinner? No. But do I think she has filled some of the void in leadership this last year on covid vacated by the government? Yes It is all a triumph of public relations. Awe, bless 'er, she's wearing the same broach, she's got a wee electric bar heater, she sat alone like others, against tradition she has to stay at Windsor Castle (how many houses does she need?) etc etc. None of it is leadership, it is all PR and they are masters of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, Lex said: What a woman, she truly transcends politics and time. What a speech today. I would have hoped that brought a wee tear to even the most joyless of the hard nosed republicans. We will lose her soon, and what a loss she will be. Let’s celebrate her twilight years. Post your messages of tribute to our head of state on here. Long to reign over us. Interesting to see the the red and green dotters. Here's yer 'good guys' vs 'wanks' in one easy post. Edited December 26, 2021 by The_Kincardine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Interesting to see the the red and green dotters. Here's yer 'good guys' vs 'wanks' in one easy post. I would, on the whole, tend to agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Interesting to see the the red and green dotters. Here's yer 'good guys' vs 'wanks' in one easy post. Forgotten, in your bid to promote and champion fellow Brexity, far-right ̶l̶o̶o̶n̶s̶ “good guys”, like Dawson Park Boy and Goomba, that you occasionally masquerade as an anti-Brexit anti-monarchist who hates these “good guys” as much as you hate those dashed Scotch Natters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Antlion said: Forgotten, in your bid to promote and champion fellow Brexity, far-right ̶l̶o̶o̶n̶s̶ “good guys”, like Dawson Park Boy and Goomba, that you occasionally masquerade as an anti-Brexit anti-monarchist who hates these “good guys” as much as you hate those dashed Scotch Natters? I was on the verge of voting with the "good guys" until I saw Scott Steiner in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 34 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: The OP must be having a right good chuckle at this thread, given that he hasn't contributed anything since his original post. Lex, you're an old rascal, now bugger off! Exactly, top trolling from Lex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, strichener said: Exactly, top trolling from Lex. Meanwhile, the alias: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Interesting to see the the red and green dotters. Here's yer 'good guys' vs 'wanks' in one easy post. The wanks are green. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 37 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Interesting to see the the red and green dotters. Here's yer 'good guys' vs 'wanks' in one easy post. The wanks are green. We'd usually think that... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Scott Steiner said: It couldn't be any worse than the reaction from P&B's anti-monarchists following yesterdays Queens speech! I think saying as I did that I have nothing personal against the Queen but that the monarchy belongs in the dustbin of history is a perfectly reasonable position to hold. No "heids gone" there really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, tamthebam said: I think saying as I did that I have nothing personal against the Queen but that the monarchy belongs in the dustbin of history is a perfectly reasonable position to hold. No "heids gone" there really. Some of the reactions have been mental, Tam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) The Queen's broadcast was watched by 9 million viewers, which equates to 13.1% of the UK population, ie just over 1 in 10. In 1980 that figure was a record 28 million, and with many of yesterday's viewers probably watching back then you can see which way this is headed. We're just not producing many new monarchists these days. Edited December 26, 2021 by O'Kelly Isley III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, AlbionSaint said: Actually, I believe they're net contributors to the Exchequer, given the contributions from The Crown Estate. I must have missed when they bought the Crown Estate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Good work if you can get it. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10345791/amp/Worlds-largest-hoard-iron-age-coins-bought-island-Jersey.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: The Queen's broadcast was watched by 9 million viewers, which equates to 13.1% of the UK population, ie just over 1 in 10. In 1980 that figure was a record 28 million, and with many of yesterday's viewers probably watching back then you can see which way this is headed. We're just not producing many new monarchists these days. Mind you back then about 28 million would've watched Mike Yarwood or something too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) I don't think you can track Liz's right to rule much past some great great great uncle who pranced about some minor German province. Loads of Vikings like William invaded us anyway, and that other William, the Dutch thug invited in by traitors to murder and pillage. I'm not about to blame her for dodgy ancestors, but giving her default ownership of all the land in the UK is not on the cards either. Edited December 27, 2021 by welshbairn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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