Detournement Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 The guy who gets paid to making losing arguments at the Supreme Court for Sturgeon will be looking at second homes in the south of France tonight. -6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: At least it’ll open the debate up to the general Scottish public most of whom didn’t really appreciate what was being done in their name. The whole thing will now be opened up for scrutiny in the media and, I may well be wrong, but I just feel that the Scottish public, whatever their political affiliations are socially conservative. I welcome this intervention. Not sure what "debate" you think is being opened up here? All that happens is that there will be legal intervention of one type or another. Well, thats not true - in a sensible world, the UK govt would tell the Scot Gov which bits "contravene the EA" and it could be changed................but we all know this isnt about the EA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: At least it’ll open the debate up to the general Scottish public most of whom didn’t really appreciate what was being done in their name. The whole thing will now be opened up for scrutiny in the media and, I may well be wrong, but I just feel that the Scottish public, whatever their political affiliations are socially conservative. I welcome this intervention. What are your objections? Surely as a libertarian you would support less restrictions on how people live their lives? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oneteaminglasgow Posted January 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2023 I, for one, am shocked to see the worst people in the country are pleased about this. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanlineayr Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, betting competition said: This decision is going to set a very dangerous precedent. I fear what laws Westminster will want to block and hinder passage of in future, especially with the current crop of incompetent and corrupt criminals in charge down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Too young as with voting and getting married. Lets ignore the voting one, as its only in Scotland. As of today, a pair of English 16 year olds can "run away" to Gretna and get married. Do you think this law should be changed by the UK Govt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 You would certainly hope this is the case, somehow I'm less sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 21 minutes ago, GAD said: I'm Scottish and I supported it. Along with the majority of elected MSPs from SNP, Labour, Lib Dems and Green, who all supported it at the last election and were elected by the Scottish people. What exactly was your problem with it? Plus 3 Tory MSPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: At least it’ll open the debate up to the general Scottish public most of whom didn’t really appreciate what was being done in their name. The whole thing will now be opened up for scrutiny in the media and, I may well be wrong, but I just feel that the Scottish public, whatever their political affiliations are socially conservative. I welcome this intervention. On this type of issue political affiliations carry less weight than religious ones, and as Scotland in 2023 is for the most part much less in thrall to muscular and doctrinaire theology I think you may indeed well be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Lets ignore the voting one, as its only in Scotland. As of today, a pair of English 16 year olds can "run away" to Gretna and get married. Do you think this law should be changed by the UK Govt? Yes -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, 101 said: You would certainly hope this is the case, somehow I'm less sure. Its a bit of a stupid argument anyway - when it goes to court, Sunaks opinion is worth as much as Sturgeons (nowt), as it will be points of law. The most interesting part will be when Alister Jack publishes (tomorrow) the rationale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: On this type of issue political affiliations carry less weight than religious ones, and as Scotland in 2023 is for the most part much less in thrall to muscular and doctrinaire theology I think you may indeed well be wrong. As I say, you may well be correct. Lets see. -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, Leith Green said: Fanny Great response! -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Great response! Perhaps I should have referred you to my auntie Betty - she got married when she was 16 (shes now in her 80s) and would kick your baws up and down the street for suggesting that her marriage holds less validity than anyone else. I merely summarised all of that by suggesting that wanting to remove this right marks you out as a fanny. But I will tell you what - as a mark of not wanting to turn this nasty, I will remove the post. Feel free to remove the quoted one. Edited January 16, 2023 by Leith Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Make no mistake, this has nothing whatsoever to do with GR, the Tories, supported by fucking Labour have deliberately chosen a contentious & culture wars issue to enact the first S35 order, this will slowly but surely become the norm. It’s a fucking disgrace & if happening in any other devolved democracy would be condemned by the very people taking action. The games an absolute bogey, f**k this, f**k the Tories & Labour & more importantly f**k the UK. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razamanaz Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Alister has fallen right into the FM's trap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ivo den Bieman Posted January 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2023 It is a naked attack on devolution. I say this as someone who has no particular skin in the issue of the GRR, other than wanting trans people to ahve better lives than they do at present. Anyone lining up behind the Tories or the chillingly inhuman Alister Jack, the minister for the eighteenth century, needs to have a word with themselves. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Wonder if the Tories are now dancing to the tune of their true leader, Starmer. Racists and bigots abound in Westminster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 50 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: If only this was a thing Scottish people actually supported….. eh? Didn’t stop them cracking on with it when 2/3rds of their own party opposed it. 45 minutes ago, GAD said: I'm Scottish and I supported it. Along with the majority of elected MSPs from SNP, Labour, Lib Dems and Green, who all supported it at the last election and were elected by the Scottish people. What exactly was your problem with it? He's been asked this before and shat it. Quite simply he's a bigoted wee coward. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 45 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: If only this was a thing Scottish people actually supported….. eh? Didn’t stop them cracking on with it when 2/3rds of their own party opposed it. In my lifetime it has been illegal to have same sex relations and more recently adopting into a same sex relationship was mainstream argued to be unreasonable lest the child be interfered with. Utterly disgusting and hard to countenance via a 2023 prism so it is in this context that even if your 66.6% is in any way accurate, it doesn't stop them being flat out wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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