Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I'm happy to say I won't ever be voting for Fergus Ewing again. He and the rest of the bigots can go f**k themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 @oaksoft downvoting genuine concerns about the American far right and ultra orthodox Christians pumping dark money into AstroTurfing groups. Sad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Imagine giving a fuck about what a person you’ve never met self identifies as. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: @oaksoft downvoting genuine concerns about the American far right and ultra orthodox Christians pumping dark money into AstroTurfing groups. Sad Livingston and Killie up to no good as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Result 88 for, 33 against, 4 abstained, 4 no vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 34 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: I'm happy to say I won't ever be voting for Fergus Ewing again. He and the rest of the bigots can go f**k themselves. Fergus Ewing voted against repealing Section 28/Clause 2a in the early 2000s and against gay marriage in the 2010s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 What's the point in standing for a party but then voting against something which is in their manifesto? Noticed that two tories voted for, Sandesh Gulhane and Jamie Greene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Terry_Tibbs said: I never thought i'd live long enough to see an SNP politician act in good conscience. Yet it still passed. Get it up you creep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Fergus Ewing voted against repealing Section 28/Clause 2a in the early 2000s and against gay marriage in the 2010s. A nothing MSP trading off his surname for two decades. He should piss of to the Tories or Alba. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Would you platform climate and Holocaust deniers? Biggie would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 2 hours ago, Clown Job said: Would you platform climate and Holocaust deniers? Biggie would. Aye, part of a pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Quitely Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Terry_Tibbs said: I never thought i'd live long enough to see an SNP politician act in good conscience. Her name is an anagram of Near Gash. Cap fits apparently...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Oh FFS get a grip. Tell me this then. Your pish a couple of pages back about trans folks can *feel* they're a certain gender, but actually they're not and they're what's on their birth certificate. Lots of folks here will identify as Scottish, will *insist* they're Scottish, but according to their paperwork, they're British citizens. By your logic, nobody here is Scottish. Same shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I bet this thread uncovered a few throbbers. anyway. bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Terry_Tibbs said: I never thought i'd live long enough to see an SNP politician act in good conscience. What an utterly bizarre thing to get your jollies over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Two Tory MSPs backed the Bill against their party’s position and a further two abstained. https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23083443.scottish-gender-recognition-tory-msp-breaks-ranks-vote/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 The MSPs voting against the bill are going to be ashamed of their position in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Ginaro said: What's the point in standing for a party but then voting against something which is in their manifesto? A) Not everything in a party manifesto has unanimous support - elected politicians should not act as an unthinking bloc to just execute it all. B) If a consultation period highlights serious flaws with any policy then the onus is absolutely on elected representatives to use their best judgment whether to proceed or not. Regardless of the merits of the gender recognition bill both the SNP politicians who voted against it - as well as Tories and others who voted for it - are doing their job as much as any MSP who just follows their party whip. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I find it difficult to understand the (JK Rowling style) argument that allowing people to identify as a specific gender is in some way a danger to women and girls. The thought that this legislation will have loads of potential rapists identifying as a trans woman is faintly ludicrous. The trans population is tiny, and if a small number of people genuinely want to change gender they have a difficult, stressful journey - lasting the rest of their lives. Seems to me that any legislation which assists a small, scared and marginalised section of society to live a life that the rest of us takes for granted is to be welcomed. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Can someone give me a quick TLDR explanation of what this GRA actually means? From what I can gather, the current situation is that a person who wishes to become transgender and legally change their gender has to jump through a bunch of hoops, e.g., permission from doctors and prove they’ve been living as their new gender for a minimum period, whereas the new act will make it much simpler, i.e., a person would have the right to change their gender at the stroke of a pen? Can’t say I see a huge issue with it, especially given the current state of NHS waiting lists. Must admit though that I always thought the process of becoming trans actually involved surgery so that your body resembles that of your new gender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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