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Some discussion on various Russian linked sites about the outline of a settlement. I think neutrality is definitely on the table for Ukraine but what form it takes is the important thing. 

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4 minutes ago, throbber said:

What are they going to be talking about?

Hopefully stopping this madness before it's get too mental and Vlad decides to go full maddo.

Seemingly the Israeli pm and Vlad get on and most of the Oligarchs have ties in Israel including passports etc so Israel hopefully has some sway 

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12 hours ago, Vimto90 said:

"BREAKING: Putin has instructed his government to prepare a list of countries that have imposed sanctions on Russia, its firms or any Russian nationals"

More scaremongering from Vlad. The more this stuff is public the more I am convinced when it comes to nuclear, he is all bark and no bite.
 

Would it not be quicker compiling a list of countries that haven't imposed sanctions?

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12 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

We're surely the perfect target?

Small time power wise so pose no threat of retaliation, but big enough that it'll have a worldwide effect. An island so mainland Europe wouldn't be directly affected by the blast beyond some fallout. Friendly enough to America that it makes a statement they can't protect their "friends", but not useful enough to America to make them start a proper nuclear war. We're not in the EU anymore either.

Russian doctrine, drawn up in 2010, pretty much gives Putin freedom to throw nukes about at enemies who "threaten the existence of the state". I've no doubt he could easily paint sanctions killing the economy as that tbh.

Totally irrelevant.

But we are still in NATO

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43 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Nina Hossain just flew in two-footed on Dominic Raab on ITV News.

She was critical of how difficult the tory government are making it for Ukrainians to come here and pointed out Raab's old man was a Czech refugee who fled the nazis and came here and he was fucking raging with her. If he'd have been in the studio I'm sure he'd have backhanded her.

Didn't know that about him.

What is it with Tories also being "pull the ladder up behind you" types.

Him, Patel and Javid's parents all arrived in the UK when we were "global Britain" and the three of them have played a huge part in turning us into an insular hell hole. You would think they would have more compassion but it seems the opposite it true.

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1 minute ago, 101 said:

Didn't know that about him.

What is it with Tories also being "pull the ladder up behind you" types.

Him, Patel and Javid's parents all arrived in the UK when we were "global Britain" and the three of them have played a huge part in turning us into an insular hell hole. You would think they would have more compassion but it seems the opposite it true.

I think you answered your own question. The “pull up the ladder behind you” types are going to join the Tory party as a natural home and thereby be better able to achieve their aims.

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I think you answered your own question. The “pull up the ladder behind you” types are going to join the Tory party as a natural home and thereby be better able to achieve their aims.
Well, in their defence, surely these people could at least have the decency to have loads of money before being brutally forced from their homes.
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45 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Some discussion on various Russian linked sites about the outline of a settlement. I think neutrality is definitely on the table for Ukraine but what form it takes is the important thing. 

I'd say not, at least not in the way you're probably leaning towards.  The gathering view of most democracies is that the Russian mission must fail,

and be seen to fail. Otherwise no one is safe.

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Anybody else access RT.com today and get a wee message "checking your browser before connecting"?

Looks like I'm flagged up as a Russian spy now. I expect MI6 to be at my door any minute. Just wait until the see that I'm a member of the Red Army. I'm fucked.

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Just now, Bairnardo said:
3 minutes ago, Antlion said:
I think you answered your own question. The “pull up the ladder behind you” types are going to join the Tory party as a natural home and thereby be better able to achieve their aims.

Well, in their defence, surely these people could at least have the decency to have loads of money before being brutally forced from their homes.

The rich are by design, always going to be greedy and 'protect our interests at all costs' types. That I understand - disagree with, but understand.

I'll never, ever understand though, the lack of comprehension of those who live in the country, are on the breadline, struggle through life and continue to vote for a party who tell them that foreigners coming over here will ultimately be the ones who take away everything that they have and hold dear.

People who have nothing, terrified that the nothing they have will be taken away by people with less than nothing, instead of actually realising that they have more in common with your average foreigner without a pot to piss in, than they ever will with the people telling them to be wary of those types.

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5 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:
9 minutes ago, Antlion said:
I think you answered your own question. The “pull up the ladder behind you” types are going to join the Tory party as a natural home and thereby be better able to achieve their aims.

Well, in their defence, surely these people could at least have the decency to have loads of money before being brutally forced from their homes.

The mental thing is, just having money is no good you have to spunk a huge chuck over the Tory party and then you are set.

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1 minute ago, Archie McSquackle said:
1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said:

That's an interesting read but we've got no way of knowing if it's just propaganda and a mirror image of Firefox' earlier rant.

Yeah, an interesting read, but it's a bit too much like what we'd want to hear to be plausible.

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