RandomGuy. Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 There would've been a bitter kind of irony if all the focus was on Russia/Ukraine, only for India/Pakistan to be the war that starts a Nuclear Holocaust. Pakistan has a "first strike" policy in the war. If they believe India is attempting to attack or invade Pakistan, with any form of weapon, then they'll respond with nuclear weapons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: If Trump was still in the White House we'd all be marvelling at the weird spectacle of a midnight sunrise or two by now. GBN is genuinely more ridiculous than Fox tbh. Trump was Putin's puppet can't think he would have done never much at all. That said I'm surprised how far Boris has gone but then again as a man who was itching to be a Churchill figure he'll be as happy as a pig in shit even if all his donors end up penniless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, doulikefish said: All Russian type tv channels are blocked here apart from gb news I've just noticed that Sky News YouTube live is not available here in Thailand....taken off 9hrs ago, but I can still access RT. Edited March 12, 2022 by SlipperyP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, 101 said: Trump was Putin's puppet can't think he would have done never much at all. That said I'm surprised how far Boris has gone but then again as a man who was itching to be a Churchill figure he'll be as happy as a pig in shit even if all his donors end up penniless. If anyone wants to go down in history today they can broker a peace The gung ho types of the past would lead to annihilation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I read yesterday of a reported incident, no idea if it's actually true. 4 Russian tanks rolled into a Ukrainian village and parked in the centre. The soldiers got out and siphoned fuel from 2 tanks into the other 2 then they all drove away. The locals came out from their houses and put Ukrainian flags on the tanks left behind. Later that day, 2 Russian tanks came into the village and opened fire on the two tanks with Ukrainian flags on them. After they were destroyed, the Russian tanks drove through the village but one of them fell off a narrow bridge and overturned into a river, drowning the crew. Shambolic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: I read yesterday of a reported incident, no idea if it's actually true. 4 Russian tanks rolled into a Ukrainian village and parked in the centre. The soldiers got out and siphoned fuel from 2 tanks into the other 2 then they all drove away. The locals came out from their houses and put Ukrainian flags on the tanks left behind. Later that day, 2 Russian tanks came into the village and opened fire on the two tanks with Ukrainian flags on them. After they were destroyed, the Russian tanks drove through the village but one of them fell off a narrow bridge and overturned into a river, drowning the crew. Shambolic. Sounds like a PG episode of " 'allo allo". A battlefield equivalent of sticking a sign on someone's back saying "kick me". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just straight up Holocaust denial on your prime time American telly. All the pro Nazi media over the past few weeks is becoming increasingly sinister. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Yeah, I’m not sure if reassuring an aggressor is a sound policy. Your policy of not reassuring a nuclear armed power that a direct confrontation with NATO is on the cards is the worst kind of warmongering drivel. Wars are caused by the gap between rhetoric and actions. Edited March 12, 2022 by vikingTON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Detournement said: Just straight up Holocaust denial on your prime time American telly. All the pro Nazi media over the past few weeks is becoming increasingly sinister. So all those German Jews, socialists, communists, homosexuals, disabled, Jehovahs Witnesses, etc etc didn't speak German, having lived in Germany all their lives? Interesting. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, virginton said: Your policy of not reassuring a nuclear armed power that a direct confrontation with NATO is on the cards is the worst kind of warmongering drivel. Wars are caused by the gap between rhetoric and actions. @virginton’s hot take today is that appeasement is the answer. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Getting a bit desperate, Vlad? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 5 hours ago, steve55 said: Or maybe she just a gold digger? You'd shag him yourself if the alternative was digging salt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: @virginton’s hot take today is that appeasement is the answer. Yeah, I'm really not surprised that you went with the most fatuous, 'Dummies' Guide to International Relations' analogy. The sort of rhetoric-heavy and strategy-light chickenhawk who would have rolled tanks in to support the brave Hungarians in 1956 and lit up the globe like a Christmas tree because 'Munich or something!!!111!!.' Perhaps you could do some actual fucking reading first to check just how many sanctions and defensive military aid was provided by the West to check German aggression in the 1930s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/12/russia-vladimir-putin-ukraine-kremlin-mood 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, virginton said: Yeah, I'm really not surprised that you went with the most fatuous, 'Dummies' Guide to International Relations' analogy. The sort of rhetoric-heavy and strategy-light chickenhawk who would have rolled tanks in to support the brave Hungarians in 1956 and lit up the globe like a Christmas tree because 'Munich or something!!!111!!.' Perhaps you could do some actual fucking reading first to check just how many sanctions and defensive military aid was provided by the West to check German aggression in the 1930s. Why would I need to, when you will come along with absolute certainty and give us all the answers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Considering Russia signed an agreement in the 90s not to attack Ukraine why would Ukraine trust anything Russia signs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welly boy Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Newbornbairn said: I read yesterday of a reported incident, no idea if it's actually true. 4 Russian tanks rolled into a Ukrainian village and parked in the centre. The soldiers got out and siphoned fuel from 2 tanks into the other 2 then they all drove away. The locals came out from their houses and put Ukrainian flags on the tanks left behind. Later that day, 2 Russian tanks came into the village and opened fire on the two tanks with Ukrainian flags on them. After they were destroyed, the Russian tanks drove through the village but one of them fell off a narrow bridge and overturned into a river, drowning the crew. Shambolic. With stories like this i think we can safely say that Russia are moving down the rankings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Welly boy said: With stories like this i think we can safely say that Russia are moving down the rankings. Ukrainian farmers will be climbing the table shortly 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Why would I need to, when you will come along with absolute certainty and give us all the answers? Because you fancy not making a rip-roaring c**t of yourself for the first time in years? Today is not that day though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Considering Russia signed an agreement in the 90s not to attack Ukraine why would Ukraine trust anything Russia signs? The 'logic' in your argument is just nonsense: by that standard, no peace treaty would ever be concluded with an aggressor. Ongoing aid to Ukraine to reconstruct its economy and develop its develop military capability is all that is needed to provide an effective check on a future invasion. Or they can choose to not negotiate and watch Kiev being shelled into New Grozny over the course of years in a fit of pique, but that would be a rather stupid choice. Edited March 12, 2022 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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