Bert Raccoon Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 33 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: 6 minutes ago, KingRocketman II said: you clearly haven't seen Red Heat or the end of Rocky IV. "Good luck". In fairness, I'm from Larkhall so was only basing this on one movie God damn that evil Russian b*****d Jean-Claude Van Damme 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Russian UN guy asked for a second chance to speak to the security council, said if they were targeting the maternity hospital they would have blown the whole thing up rather than just a few windows and fittings, and anyway the giant crater was caused by somebody treading on a land mine, holding a handful of screenshots from twitter. Also pictures of a supposed victim with different shades of make up, so clearly a crisis actor. Good to see Steve55 has got himself a job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, jagfox OG said: If they could modify them to drop off some mocktails that would be great too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: Should be fascinating to see how shit Belarus's army are considering what an arse actual Russian have made of things. If you dig back far enough in the thread, a few folk posted that the Belarussian army is notorious as the shittest in Europe. So, cannon fodder it is, then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welly boy Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, jagfox OG said: Does it come with a box of matches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Interesting thread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Interesting thread Read a bit in the Independent earlier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Interesting thread That sounds awfully like preparing the public for a withdrawal from Western and Northern Ukraine if true. What they'll do about the Black Sea coast and Donbas will be the thing, and whether Ukrainian politicians can get the backing to concede anything after what's happened. Russia has created a nation of full blown patriots, anyone offering to concede territory could be seen as a traitor. Russia are never going to concede Crimea and Donbas (whatever borders are agreed to, if so). Edited March 11, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 6 hours ago, ICTChris said: The head of the FSB Foreign Service has been accused of stealing funds for the invasion and of deliberately providing incorrect intelligence. Is there any 'confirmation' (reliablish source for this) btw? It would hardly be surprising if a scapegoat was found, but could signal an exit route for the Kremlin that should be left as wide open as possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 P.S. More about that Moscow TV show here, with how they ended it.. Quote To lighten the mood in the studio, the host resorted to one of the favorite pastimes of many Kremlin propagandists: playing yet another Fox News clip of Tucker Carlson and his frequent guest Ret. Col. Doug Macgregor. In the translated video, Macgregor predicted Russia’s easy military victories over Ukraine and its total invincibility to Western sanctions. Soloviev sighed and smiled: “He’s a lot more optimistic than my previous experts in the studio.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-russias-state-tv-admits-ukraine-disaster-has-putin-in-trouble 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, welshbairn said: That sounds awfully like preparing the public for a withdrawal from Western and Northern Ukraine if true. What they'll do about the Black Sea coast and Donbas will be the thing, and whether Ukrainian politicians can get the backing to concede anything after what's happened. Russia has created a nation of full blown patriots, anyone offering to concede territory could be seen as a traitor. Russia are never going to concede Crimea and Donbas (whatever borders are agreed to, if so). Ukraine has two realistic options on the table: either a concession of Luhansk/Donetsk + Crimea (possibly a land corridor to the latter), or a ceasefire and frozen conflict based on current occupation which truncates its borders by more than this. For all the resistance, there's no prospect of actual counter-attack driving the Russians back any time soon. The sane thing to do is for both sides to recognise that they've got a shite hand to play and wrap things up with Option 1. That doesn't mean normalising relations with Russia, but does involve accepting what is already an irreversible reality. But once you combine nationalism with blood spilled it becomes very difficult for people on any side of a conflict to see the bigger picture. This is where third parties (Turkey, maybe China) need to act as go betweens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, virginton said: Is there any 'confirmation' (reliablish source for this) btw? It would hardly be surprising if a scapegoat was found, but could signal an exit route for the Kremlin that should be left as wide open as possible. Not sure how reliable this is, but it appears to be the original source. https://meduza.io/feature/2022/03/11/putin-nachal-repressii-protiv-5-y-sluzhby-fsb-imenno-ona-nakanune-voyny-obespechivala-prezidenta-rossii-dannymi-o-politicheskoy-situatsii-v-ukraine Also referenced here.. https://agentura.ru/investigations/putin-nachal-chistki-v-razvedke-fsb/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Not sure how reliable this is, but it appears to be the original source. https://meduza.io/feature/2022/03/11/putin-nachal-repressii-protiv-5-y-sluzhby-fsb-imenno-ona-nakanune-voyny-obespechivala-prezidenta-rossii-dannymi-o-politicheskoy-situatsii-v-ukraine Also referenced here.. https://agentura.ru/investigations/putin-nachal-chistki-v-razvedke-fsb/ My Russian is a bit rusty... Edited March 11, 2022 by Sergeant Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Welly boy said: I'm not one for conspiracy theories but Segal has to be a Russian spy and not just a cook. Nevermind gunfire, if there's a light drizzle his hair will wash off 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 36 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: My Russian is a bit rusty... English version with an admission that they haven't confirmed the arrest of anybody. https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/11/from-bad-intel-to-worse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 That shirt, tie and jacket came in a single polythene packet.Isn't that (presumably the ghost of) Jim Farry 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I get why the various USAF/RAF tankers and surveillance planes would be roaming about. But an RAF Typhoon hanging around just off Odessa? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: My Russian is a bit rusty... You should oil her more often. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, alta-pete said: But an RAF Typhoon hanging around just off Odessa? You don't need to know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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