alta-pete Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Its not something anyone really needs to be immediately thinking about. If your first reaction is ‘i hope Scotland get a bye’ then its just fucked. I suspect dark humour rather than immediate thought. Can I recommend staying away from the Dead Pool thread? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: This is clearly not true. What difference does it really make to Russia? Economically weakens the UK a bit (and to a lesser extent the EU), but not going to have much of an impact overall. Coordination of sanctions is one thing, but we've already seen the EU countries splintering on carve outs; that wouldn't be different with the UK still in the mix. Indeed, the UK's contributions in that particular area have been embarrassing. The UK might indeed have been at the top of the EU's table in defense terms, but the UK is still in NATO along with all but 2 or 3 of the EU's members. It's not really going to change anything there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Michael W said: What difference does it really make to Russia? Economically weakens the UK a bit (and to a lesser extent the EU), but not going to have much of an impact overall. Coordination of sanctions is one thing, but we've already seen the EU countries splintering on carve outs; that wouldn't be different with the UK still in the mix. Indeed, the UK's contributions in that particular area have been embarrassing. The UK might indeed have been at the top of the EU's table in defense terms, but the UK is still in NATO along with all but 2 or 3 of the EU's members. It's not really going to change anything there He's obviously hoping for further disintegration of the EU, but small moves in the right direction are always pleasing. I'm sure he has strong hopes for Hungary, and a bit bewildered why Poland won't be pals. Edited February 24, 2022 by welshbairn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Reports that some Western intelligence agencies that Ukrainian air defences are effectively eliminated and that Kyiv will fall tonight. Other reports say that Ukrainian forces have retaken the airport captured by Russian airborne troops. Who really knows? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Its not something anyone really needs to be immediately thinking about. If your first reaction is ‘i hope Scotland get a bye’ then its just fucked. That's true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, alta-pete said: I suspect dark humour rather than immediate thought. Can I recommend staying away from the Dead Pool thread? Hesitate to ask this, but does Ukraine have conscription for elite sportsmen? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Detournement said: We played through our wars in Yugoslavia and Iraq so why would Ukraine not play? Whilst it's not the biggest issue, of course, the difference would surely be there is no guarantee Ukraine will exist in 4 weeks time? Edited February 24, 2022 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Great news for Ukrainians in Kyiv. If you survive the barrage you can go and see Louis CK 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Karpaty Lviv Posted February 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2022 An extremely sad day. Just last night I was speaking to a friend in Ivano-Frankivsk who said she didn’t think they’d get anywhere near as west as there. About 8 hours later the local airfield was hit. The Ukrainian people will stay strong. At a huge cost of life, most probably, but none of them will ever be forgotten. 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, Michael W said: There is absolutely *nothing* the FBPE melts won't link to Brexit. What a take on from this whole saga. Whisper it: Putin doesn't give a single shit about the UK being in the EU or not. I suspect that Putin would have had a chuckle at Brexit because of the bitterness within the EU it has brought out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staggy1929 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Biden reiterating that no US troops will be placed in Ukraine to fight the Russians. NATO just putting 'heavy' sanctions in place. I genuinely can't even see what the end game could be here that doesn't escalate even further than it has. I hate seeing the World War 3 rhetoric on social media about it all as surely it can't get to that point, can it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Great news for Ukrainians in Kyiv. If you survive the barrage you can go and see Louis CK TBF if they announce that bombers are over the theater and you’ve got 2 minutes left, he’s one guy that won’t mind you getting one last hand shandy off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I just wonder what the endgame here is.Is it just giving Ukraine a bloody nose then keeping the Eastern territories of Donetsk and Luhansk?Or does he genuinely think he can occupy the whole country and install a puppet government?If it is the latter you could see this being a long slog of guerrilla warfare by Ukrainians against the puppet regime - not quite an Afghanistan but certainly bloody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, staggy1929 said: Biden reiterating that no US troops will be placed in Ukraine to fight the Russians. NATO just putting 'heavy' sanctions in place. I genuinely can't even see what the end game could be here that doesn't escalate even further than it has. I hate seeing the World War 3 rhetoric on social media about it all as surely it can't get to that point, can it? No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: I just wonder what the endgame here is. Is it just giving Ukraine a bloody nose then keeping the Eastern territories of Donetsk and Luhansk? Or does he genuinely think he can occupy the whole country and install a puppet government? If it is the latter you could see this being a long slog of guerrilla warfare by Ukrainians against the puppet regime - not quite an Afghanistan but certainly bloody. He will push as far west as he thinks he can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 This is the most fucked thing that's happened today. Watching this video might kill Putin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Detournement said: This is the most fucked thing that's happened today. Watching this video might kill Putin. Only in the good old U S of A. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Biden reiterating that no US troops will be placed in Ukraine to fight the Russians. NATO just putting 'heavy' sanctions in place. I genuinely can't even see what the end game could be here that doesn't escalate even further than it has. I hate seeing the World War 3 rhetoric on social media about it all as surely it can't get to that point, can it?People seem to forget that this has happened within recent memory.Afghanistan occupied, lots of noises about sanctions etc - in the end very little done. The only way the West will get actively involved militarily is if threats are made against an actual NATO memberI just don't see that happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Brendan's at it at again folks! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, throbber said: All of us are going to die. What? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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