Greenacres Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Raith Rovers a club about the same size as ours give me hope that one day with the right investment board and manager that we can challenge at the top end of the Championship . They were not long ago like us struggling in League 1 look at them now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Greenacres said: Raith Rovers a club about the same size as ours give me hope that one day with the right investment board and manager that we can challenge at the top end of the Championship . They were not long ago like us struggling in League 1 look at them now I don't think you fully appreciate our present standing in Scottish Football. Even if there is a massive overhaul from the top down, and serious investment made, it'll take a decade to build the club back up to anything like top of Championship level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenacres Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Fae_the_'briggs said: I don't think you fully appreciate our present standing in Scottish Football. Even if there is a massive overhaul from the top down, and serious investment made, it'll take a decade to build the club back up to anything like top of Championship level. All depends on how much investment sadly not looking likely to happen . It was around 4 years ago we beat Raith in the playoffs to stay in the Championship look at both clubs now. We have the same potential as Raith we could treble our crowds with a decent team in the pitch but right now 900 odd at a home League game will not support full time football much longer . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 16/12/2023 at 14:43, Nithsdale Wanderer said: Got our own back in the replay though in which McGuire scored the only goal of the game to put us through. Did he also get sent off in that or was it Derek Cook ? There was a sending off for a headbutt, but Derek Cook was on the receiving end of it. The headbutter in question? Future Queens manager Kenny Brannigan! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Adamski said: There was a sending off for a headbutt, but Derek Cook was on the receiving end of it. The headbutter in question? Future Queens manager Kenny Brannigan! I remember that. Had they not been teammates somewhere before, or became teammates after that, maybe at Stranraer or even Palmerston. That detail I can't recall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Greenacres said: All depends on how much investment sadly not looking likely to happen . It was around 4 years ago we beat Raith in the playoffs to stay in the Championship look at both clubs now. We have the same potential as Raith we could treble our crowds with a decent team in the pitch but right now 900 odd at a home League game will not support full time football much longer . I do get what you're saying there. Likewise, I've also often viewed Queens in a similar light to the Rovers - clubs with decent potential but probably not large enough to sustain a long stay in the top league in the current 4 tier structure, should they ever manage to get there. The old 2 tier structure was kinder to clubs of Queens and Rovers size and allowed the fans to hope and dream. The 4 tier structure was of course introduced to keep the wee clubs firmly in their place and to ensure a regular share of the OF pound around the nation's "establishment" clubs. I'd imagine that what has changed of course recently for the Rovers is that the money men from Kelty have moved across Fife to settle in at Starks Park, hence they'll currently be able to offer more attractive deals to players these days, which in turn improves performance, and which in turn improves attendances and hence income stream value. This may get them to the "promised land" of the top tier cartel and if so they may be able to sustain it for as long as the "conservatory" money men sit on the board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandQueen Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, Otis Blue said: I do get what you're saying there. Likewise, I've also often viewed Queens in a similar light to the Rovers - clubs with decent potential but probably not large enough to sustain a long stay in the top league in the current 4 tier structure, should they ever manage to get there. The old 2 tier structure was kinder to clubs of Queens and Rovers size and allowed the fans to hope and dream. The 4 tier structure was of course introduced to keep the wee clubs firmly in their place and to ensure a regular share of the OF pound around the nation's "establishment" clubs. I'd imagine that what has changed of course recently for the Rovers is that the money men from Kelty have moved across Fife to settle in at Starks Park, hence they'll currently be able to offer more attractive deals to players these days, which in turn improves performance, and which in turn improves attendances and hence income stream value. This may get them to the "promised land" of the top tier cartel and if so they may be able to sustain it for as long as the "conservatory" money men sit on the board. Sad but football is principally about how much you bankroll your team. Ross County would never have been in the Premier League without McGregors cash. Ditto Kelly and Coves rise. I would love to see us in the top division once in my 52 years of supporting Queens… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Fae_the_'briggs said: I remember that. Had they not been teammates somewhere before, or became teammates after that, maybe at Stranraer or even Palmerston. That detail I can't recall. Cook and Brannigan had been team mates at Killie until a few weeks before it happened. Cook ended up with a broken jaw and Brannigan got sacked by Killie for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonhamerDon Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Really important game at Stirling on the weekend. Feels like a potential sliding door particularly with Annan to round out the year. A potential to end the year in touching distance of play offs or set up for a relegation battle/bottom half drudgery Very much still in the mindset of 'the Montrose game was the anomaly' particularly as that first half display was so utterly unexpected to witness. Think we might need 4 wins in a row before the optimism starts to creep in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 58 minutes ago, DoonhamerDon said: Really important game at Stirling on the weekend. Feels like a potential sliding door particularly with Annan to round out the year. A potential to end the year in touching distance of play offs or set up for a relegation battle/bottom half drudgery Very much still in the mindset of 'the Montrose game was the anomaly' particularly as that first half display was so utterly unexpected to witness. Think we might need 4 wins in a row before the optimism starts to creep in. Yep, jury's still out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetableman Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 You guy's are suffering the same way we were /are with extreme inconsistency we get stuffed 0-3 from EC then beat cove away and draw with hamilton , you get stuffed 5-0 from same team , then whip montrose ,crazy results right there . mind you some things never change 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Vegetableman said: You guy's are suffering the same way we were /are with extreme inconsistency we get stuffed 0-3 from EC then beat cove away and draw with hamilton , you get stuffed 5-0 from same team , then whip montrose ,crazy results right there . mind you some things never change Plus ca change mon ami, plus ca change ... aye? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetableman Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 13 hours ago, Otis Blue said: Plus ca change mon ami, plus ca change ... aye? Force majeure ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Otis Blue Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vegetableman said: Force majeure ? Perhaps ... but I'm not sure if the likes of big Efe failing to set his alarm clock and missing the bus, or half our team gaming on Call of Duty for 8 hours pre-match would be classed as unexpected events outwith our control in our case tbf ... Marvin may beg to differ, aye? Edited December 20, 2023 by Otis Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: Always time for a sage observation from dahn Peckham way ... Del: One of my most favouritist meals is Duck à l’Orange, but I don’t know how to say that in French. Rodney: It’s canard. Del: You can say that again bruv! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Otis Blue said: Always time for a sage observation from dahn Peckham way ... Del: One of my most favouritist meals is Duck à l’Orange, but I don’t know how to say that in French. Rodney: It’s canard. Del: You can say that again bruv! Yeah, brilliant scene. It's on YouTube but the quality is shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: Yeah, brilliant scene. It's on YouTube but the quality is shit. Classic stuff, classic! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bod Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Merry Christmas one and all. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenslad Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Do we have any centre halves for Falkirk match with suspensions and loan spells coming to an end? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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