Leith Green Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 9 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: I was referring to her signing off the accession of Charles III at the Privy Council on Saturday. I'd certainly not have put my signature to 'one monarch, one kingdom and one Protestant faith' and I'm surprised she did. Her assent to these three principles is now part of Britain's archive. More surprising is that none of the Nats on here - including you - have any issue with this Probably because we also heard what King Charles said during his speech - specifically relating to Scotlands claim of right. That is also "part of Britains archive" . hth 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Hoose Rice said: Or maybe he's an old man that's mum has just passed away? I'm sure many people can relate to when someone so close has just left this world you forget a lot of things. Charles has to kick about public appearances at the same time too. It's actually quite shan on him. Imagine the reaction from the same people looking for things to rip into him about if he was laughing and joking on top of the world. Maybe have a wee bit more empathy for a fellow human being and imagine how upset you will be when Daniel O'Donnell sings his last tune. Sounds like a valid criticism of a system which works people to death and then, immediately on that death, thrusts their first born child into their job and the limelight. It does seem totally lacking in human feeling. So we can add “unempathetic” and “actually quite shan” to the list of appalling things about the monarchical system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Antlion said: This, in addition to him appointing Camilla and Andrew as head “councillors of state” (to do nothing useful in his place when he’s on holiday), is magic. I don't know if he any choice in that. The monarch's spouse and the next four in line to the throne (as long as they meet qualifying criteria e.g being an adult) are appointed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RedEd said: I don't know if he any choice in that. The monarch's spouse and the next four in line to the throne (as long as they meet qualifying criteria e.g being an adult) are appointed. Bloody unelected bureaucrats! From what I understand, the monarch appoints their precedence from a pool of aristocrats in the line of succession. Charles already abandoning his supposed desire to modernise… Edited September 14, 2022 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Are they really arresting anyone carrying a blank sheet of paper just in case they write Not my King on it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 9 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Hey my degree was in theology so I have experience of 'ancient scripture' and in trying (badly) to learn the Greek of the New Testament. The AoU is absolutely nothing like 'ancient scripture' and the meaning is plain. On April 30th 1707 we had two kingdoms: SCO and ENG. On May 1st 1707 we had one: GB. It isn't hard! The Clearing system strikes again. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) "The royal family must modernise" Alright let's get rid of hereditary titles and special exemptions from the law. "No, not like that!" Edited September 14, 2022 by GiGi 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Antlion said: Bloody unelected bureaucrats! From what I understand, the monarch appoints their precedence from a pool of aristocrats in the line of succession. Charles already abandoning his supposed desire to modernise… 2 minutes ago, GiGi said: "The royal family must modernise" Alright let's get rid of hereditary titles and special exemptions from the law. "No, not like that!" You can't modernise a monarchy. If it was modern, it wouldn't be a monarchy. The other European monarchies that are clinging on aren't really modern. They're more vestigial. Like humans have a modern tail. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 19 hours ago, BFTD said: I know, yet there it was, sandwiched in between stuff like He Who Would Valiant Be and Autumn Days. I guess maybe our piano teacher just liked to bash away at it between classes. Thinking about it, we'd have to sing Guantanamera sometimes too, despite nobody knowing the words. We'd all just make noises roughly equivalent to what Mrs Pianoteacher was trilling. Could've been the lyrics to a Cannibal Corpse song for all we knew. Edit: it definitely wasn't; this was before the Death Metal boom. Interesting chat on this. For years I thought Little boxes had been written by Pete Seeger, given his socialist leanings, only to find out it was written by Malvina Reynolds. She also wrote Morning town ride, which must have some hidden meanings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: These posts are linked. "Will Charles be shite at Monarching?" "Ocht he just lost his mum" Of course I sympathise with him and his family but there is nothing objectively wrong about laughing at the guy losing his shit at writing paraphernalia, twice in as many days. Personally my time for Charles evaporated (or was diluted thousands and thousands of times so the concentration of my sympathy was down to single atoms per litre) when we learned he abused his position to lobby government so the NHS would provide fucking homeopathy on the NHS. I wonder if he thought his mum should be treated with 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000001% solutions of chamomile and haliborange. I'd be very surprised if Billy and Kate paid any attention to Charlie's views on homeopathy if their kids were ill. Can't take any risks with the succession. Best to stick to "thoughts and prayers" instead... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Leith Green said: Probably because we also heard what King Charles said during his speech - specifically relating to Scotlands claim of right. That is also "part of Britains archive" . hth Scotland's CoR was to remove a Catholic king and replace him with the joint, Protestant monarchs of England. Nothing more than that. hth -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 12 hours ago, BFTD said: I loved the revelation that auld Liz used to set her solicitors on our parliamentary representatives whenever they were proposing legislation that might have affected her personal estate. In another country, you could make a decent comedy out of Brenda throwing tantrums at the Prime Ministers of the day, but it would be sacrilege in Britain. One of the reasons she was an arsehole. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 This made me chortle. Other than wave and go on holiday, using a fountain pen is pretty much the only thing he has had to actually learn to do his "job." Doesn't bode terribly well does it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: This made me chortle. Other than wave and go on holiday, using a fountain pen is pretty much the only thing he has had to actually learn to do his "job." Doesn't bode terribly well does it. He'd probably be more comfortable with a quill. (As long as the feathers didn't come from swans, natch..............) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 15 hours ago, doulikefish said: God save the king https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/13/king-charles-staff-given-redundancy-notice-during-church-service-for-queen?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other They should consider themselves lucky. The ancient Eqyptians would have had them poisoned and buried with the queen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Anyone else not care about the absurdity of the details about who can be monarch and who can't? It's literally just an accident of birth. The utter insanity of that completely outweighs anything like catholics not being allowed to be King or males coming before females in the line of succession. These things pale in comparison to the collective mental illness of actually having a hereditary monarchy. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 12 hours ago, welshbairn said: I don't get that because a bunch of bankrupt aristos and gamblers sold their nation to England to pay off their debts, that that contract should supersede the will of the Scottish electorate until the end of times. While the Darien fiasco ended up with a lot of private debt (as opposed to national debt) it's not why the Act of Union happened, rather it was the threatened English economic blockade of Scotland that pushed the Scots to the negotiating table. Paying off Darien was just a sop that the Scots aristocrats managed to get levered in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Waldo Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Suspect Device said: Are they really arresting anyone carrying a blank sheet of paper just in case they write Not my King on it? No. But they did arrest someone who wrote that. I wonder if some people are changing their views on Freedom of Speech? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Florentine_Pogen said: He'd probably be more comfortable with a quill. (As long as the feathers didn't come from swans, natch..............) Well, of course, a pen is also an adult female swan, but he did seem able to distinguish between them...so far, so good. Something pleasingly symmetrical about his nibs being betrayed by his nibs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Fullerene said: They should consider themselves lucky. The ancient Eqyptians would have had them poisoned and buried with the queen. Seems fair(o). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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