kingjoey Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Drew Brees said: If it’s unintentional and his arms are in a natural position caused by his jump then is it still a penalty? Depends on which team it's for, or against. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Drew Brees said: So natural position doesn’t come into it? It’s that unnatural the Dundee Utd player also jumping next to Bernabei has his arms in the exact same position. It seems to be that if the arm is high natural or not they are going to give it hence why we got the one against Livi. It’s a nonsense but it does seem to be a consistent nonsense as they are all being given Edited November 8, 2022 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: It’s that unnatural the Dundee Utd player also jumping next to Bernabei has his arms in the exact same position. Aye, he didn't handle the ball though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Dundee Hibernian said: Aye, he didn't handle the ball though. Your not really getting his point are you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, gannonball said: Your not really getting his point are you I get his point, yes, you aren't getting mine though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 players humping for the ball, both identical jumps, I’d say that’s natural position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Drew Brees said: 2 players humping for the ball, both identical jumps, I’d say that’s natural position. That's the sort of thing I would expect folk to look for on PornHub. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Aye, he didn't handle the ball though. Don’t need VAR when you’re around eh? Yes he didn’t handle the ball but that wasn’t the point being made but you knew that already Edited November 8, 2022 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Jinky67 said: Don’t need VAR when you’re around eh? Yes he didn’t handle the ball but that wasn’t the point being made but you knew that already If Edwards had handled and then the ball had dropped to Fletcher to net, you think VAR would have okayed the goal? I don't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Celtic fans are fucking weird 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: If Edwards had handled and then the ball had dropped to Fletcher to net, you think VAR would have okayed the goal? I don't. Nope and again you completely missed the point which would be is his arm in a natural position based on his body movement which considering the position of the Dundee United player suggests it is. Also handballs in attacking positions are interpreted slightly differently as natural position doesn’t factor so not really a comparable scenario I can do you a paint by numbers if it will make it easier Edited November 9, 2022 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Sarto Mutiny said: Celtic fans are fucking weird Nah !! You think so !!?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Sarto Mutiny said: Celtic fans are fucking weird Lots of fans are fucking weird. One of my good mates supports Killie and he’s weird as f**k. I love him though. The big fucking weirdo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Jinky67 said: Nope and again you completely missed the point which would be is his arm in a natural position based on his body movement which considering the position of the Dundee United player suggests it is. Also handballs in attacking positions are interpreted slightly differently as natural position doesn’t factor so not really a comparable scenario I can do you a paint by numbers if it will make it easier What if the referee also considers the Dundee Utd player's arm to be in an unnatural position? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Henrik's tongue said: Lots of fans are fucking weird. One of my good mates supports Killie and he’s weird as f**k. I love him though. The big fucking weirdo. @Sortmeout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Jinky67 said: Nope and again you completely missed the point which would be is his arm in a natural position based on his body movement which considering the position of the Dundee United player suggests it is. Also handballs in attacking positions are interpreted slightly differently as natural position doesn’t factor so not really a comparable scenario I can do you a paint by numbers if it will make it easier 29 minutes ago, AJF said: What if the referee also considers the Dundee Utd player's arm to be in an unnatural position? @AJF, you're completely missing the point. @Jinky67 wants us to agree with him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: @Sortmeout Thanks for thinking about me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, AJF said: What if the referee also considers the Dundee Utd player's arm to be in an unnatural position? You understand the handball laws for an attacking scenario is different for a defending scenario in that natural position isn’t a factor? It’s not as if I mention it in the post you just quoted ….. oh wait I did -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: You understand the handball laws for an attacking scenario is different for a defending scenario in that natural position isn’t a factor? It’s not as if I mention it in the post you just quoted ….. oh wait I did But your point was that because the Dundee Utd player's arm was in a similar position to the Celtic player's arm, then that suggests the Celtic player's arm was likely to be in a natural position. So, I was asking what if the referee deemed that both players had their arms in an unnatural position. Natural position is subjective so you will always get differing opinions, but your logic of "Dundee Utd players arm being in the same position as the Celtic player's arm = natural position" is flawed if the referee deems both of them to be unnatural. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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