throbber Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: (Thanks to Empty It for this lovely image....) That’s the best entry to that thread yet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, throbber said: Do you even get rhinos in Europe ? They've got them at Blair Drummond 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) If this striking noise every 30 minutes really is them alive and hitting the inside of the hull... their only chance is presumably finding them near the Titanic in the next day, sending down an ROV to cut them loose - whether of an entanglement or their own weights - and hoping they float back to the surface then get spotted in time to open the hatch. It still seems a long shot. 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: Pisces III submersible: A dramatic underwater rescue Interesting to note they had 72 hours of oxygen. They were rescued after 76 hours... with what proved to be 12 minutes left ! It goes to show the endurance can go beyond the stated maximum: but not by much. Plus current 96 hour figure is apparently based on the missing mini-sub's oxygen, CO2 scrubber, and deploying emergency CO2 absorbing strips, which - like much else about the vessel - sounds a less reliable measure. 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: Somebody said the pressure's equivalent to having the Empire State building sitting on top of it. To be precise the pressure at 400 atmospheres is equivalent to having an Empire State Building made of solid lead sitting on top of it (source: New York Times). Edited June 21, 2023 by HibeeJibee -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Florentine_Pogen said: They'll have to change the company name to 'Ocean Grave', presumably................................ There'll be weirdos out there who'd probably pay in advance to have the Titanic as a final resting place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: If this striking noise every 30 minutes really is them alive and hitting the inside of the hull... their only chance is presumably finding them near the Titanic in the next day, sending down an ROV to cut them loose - whether of an entanglement or their own weights - and hoping they float back to the surface then get spotted in time to open the hatch. It still seems a long shot. Interesting to note they had 72 hours of oxygen. They were rescued after 76 hours... with what proved to be 12 minutes left ! It goes to show the endurance can go beyond the stated maximum: but not by much. Plus current 96 hour figure is apparently based on the missing mini-sub's oxygen, CO2 scrubber, and deploying emergency CO2 absorbing strips, which - like much else about the vessel - sounds a less reliable measure. To be precise the pressure at 400 atmospheres is equivalent to having an Empire State Building made of solid lead sitting on top of it (source: New York Times). Seen a lad saying the detection of he noises mean theres a good chance they re surfaced, since theres a layer of cold water somewhere in the super depths that reflects sonar back meaning they might not hear them at the bottom? The o2 depletion rate also assumes everyone is still breathing... Id have waxed the OceanGate CEO during hour 1 of the crisis tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GordonD Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: Have they contacted that expert from the Nicola Bulley case to help with the search? No, but the Metropolitan Police have offered to check out some lakes in Portugal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 55 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Interesting to note they had 72 hours of oxygen. They were rescued after 76 hours... with what proved to be 12 minutes left ! "You were lucky! Our calculations were based on there being five of you, but I see there are only four!" "Er, yes, there were always only four. Oh, don't look in the toilet, we need to clean it out first." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Seen a lad saying the detection of he noises mean theres a good chance they re surfaced, since theres a layer of cold water somewhere in the super depths that reflects sonar back meaning they might not hear them at the bottom? The o2 depletion rate also assumes everyone is still breathing... Id have waxed the OceanGate CEO during hour 1 of the crisis tbh. Aye, thermal layers play havoc with sonar. Thought it was a bit odd folk seemed to be under the impression you just bob along on the surface and ping away at things nearly 4000m doon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Oceanlineayr said: Don't think I would throw £250000 to go on a submariner controlled by a wee PS2 looking control pad. Especially (going by the photos of it) one of those 3rd party controllers that you'd pass to your mate so you could use the official dualshock 2. Logitech G F710, and it’s a Windows compatible controller rather than PlayStation, just in the PS configuration for use as a game pad on a PC. Logitech has no comment, but the feedback on this unit is, well, poor…lots of complaints about the controller degrading over time. I do have this vision of the pilot looking around and asking “Who has the spare batteries? What do you mean you forgot them!” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyDickFingers Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Seems to be a lot of people freaking about a game controller being used on the sub. The US Navy apparently did research on how to improve things for the latest breed of sailors and decided an xbox controller was perfect. The pic is from the latest Virginia class fast attack nuclear powered sub, who use it for controlling the periscope amongst other things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, TommyDickFingers said: Seems to be a lot of people freaking about a game controller being used on the sub. The US Navy apparently did research on how to improve things for the latest breed of sailors and decided an xbox controller was perfect. The pic is from the latest Virginia class fast attack nuclear powered sub, who use it for controlling the periscope amongst other things. Note it’s a wired connection, not wireless like this sub, and doesn’t need batteries. Controlling the periscope is hardly life critical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Game controllers are perfectly designed to be intuitive and easy to use. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyDickFingers Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, TxRover said: Note it’s a wired connection, not wireless like this sub, and doesn’t need batteries. Controlling the periscope is hardly life critical. They are using game controllers on arguably the most advanced machine on the planet was my point. That periscope is Imo very critical for life amongst other things on that boat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said: They are using game controllers on arguably the most advanced machine on the planet was my point. That periscope is Imo very critical for life amongst other things on that boat. I agree it’s interesting, but it’s not used to drive the blooming thing, so it’s less life critical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Hedgecutter said: There'll be weirdos out there who'd probably pay in advance to have the Titanic as a final resting place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Wtf Dave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Florentine_Pogen said: (Thanks to Empty It for this lovely image....) That's not the people that are in the submarine is it? No wonder they can't get ir back up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: That's not the people that are in the submarine is it? No wonder they can't get ir back up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I know the GPS question was asked (and answered) the other day on the "rolling news" coverage, but just how fucking stupid do you have to be to ask this question.............. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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