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A kid was facing backwards on his seat not far out of Heathrow and showing off his toy. It was a pretty cool transformer so i asked if i could see it. As he was giving it to me he dropped it and knocked the wife's pineapple juice all over her lap. 90 minutes into a sixteen hour journey, without a change of trousers. I'd have paid £40 for that. 

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32 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I hope this thread is still running in 20 years (though I might not be around to check) when those who have madethe most indignant posts have begun to appreciate the benefits of a wee bit peace and quiet.

 

To be fair, really old folk on public transport are far more annoying. And smellier.

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5 hours ago, throbber said:

Because weddings are a family event and kids are a huge part of the families of people who are attending. Children are highly likely the next step in the lives of the couple who are getting married as well. I’d quite gladly not bring my own children along to a wedding but I think it’s generally bad craic particularly if wedding is in a difficult place to get to.

My cousin got married in middle of nowhere in 2010 and his wife insisted on no kids. His sister had an 18 month old and asked if they could make an exception to bring her along but no such luck so she and her husband had to take turns of watching over the baby and couldn’t get to enjoy the wedding at all. Needless to say the bride allowed a few exceptions from ladies on her side of the invite and the amount of bitterness it all created is incredible and still rages on to this day.

Ah, people making exceptions for some attendees while telling others they can't is dickhead behaviour. It's either children allowed or not.

4 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Why would people not want children at a wedding?

Depends on the kind of wedding you're going for, surely. If you're having a massive one already with a large number of guests then aye it doesn't really change anything to have kids, and if you've got entire extended family and friend groups there removing everyone who could watch them it's quite inconsiderate not to have them.

Ours was a small one with only 23 people including the two of us, throwing a few toddlers into the mix would have completely changed the atmosphere of the day, would have meant needing a bigger room at some points, and when they saw the venue the parents who were there all said aye, you couldn't really have had a wedding with kids at this venue. I was at another a few months ago that was also no kids with about 50 guests there and they'd have had to change their food options, again would have needed bigger rooms at some point and the venue might not have worked altogether so I could see the logic, neither of them have nieces or nephews and the groomsman and bridesmaid who were leaving kids with grandparents were happy to have a night off.

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20 minutes ago, throbber said:

Speaking of ruining weddings - one of my friends was best man at a wedding in 2017 and thought it would be a good idea to tell the audience that the groom lost his virginity to a prostitute in Amsterdam when he was 21.

What's the harm in that ? Losing your cherry to someone who knows what they're doing must be great.

Also, would have been a better surprise for the bride & assembled guests if the best man had said ".......and just for the record, Alistair lost his virginity when he was 21............to me."

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Attitudes to this are quite funny in how they swing between two ridiculous points on the scale.

Hating kids is obviously a bit weird, but then so is frothing at the mouth about how weird some people are because they don't want to be around them.

The missus and I have chosen to not have kids. Neither of us are interested in them and we don't really spend that much time around them, nieces and nephews aside. We probably already do a version of this Turkish Airlines thing by self-selecting restaurants and pubs etc, knowing that we'll maybe pay more to go to certain places, but there won't be kids running about.

Whatever people with kids think, putting kids into an environment utterly changes it, and usually makes it less relaxing. Yes, your kids too.

We choose to try and stay away from these places. I don't think there's anything weird about that. f**k you.

For a long-haul flight I'd pay 40 quid to be guaranteed no screaming kids around, no bother. Despite the "WHAT ABOUT ADULTS!!!" nonsense on this thread, as a relatively frequent air traveller, I have literally never had a flight disrupted by an adult. Maybe if you fly Glasgow - Ibiza you might experience this, but I never have. I've had loads of child seat-kickers, screaming babies, tantruming toddlers, and "DADDDYYYYEEE" wailing weans, though.

Get them to f**k and take my forty quid.

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18 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:

Can't see the problem if folk are willing to pay. Though there are certain destinations I'd be more tolerant to bratty kids/expecting it. If it was to a family resort in Spain you surely have to expect a bit of noise. If it was to a nicer destination I'd be a bit more annoyed if there were bratty kids. But the trouble is generally arsehole parents not dealing with their kids. 

There was a video doing the rounds the other day of a wee boy thumping some guy's seat on the plane and when the guy asked the woman to have a word with the kid the bitch had a go at him rather than tell her kid off. Those people are what's wrong with the world. 

Was this on Facebook?  It was actors if so.  

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Parents who let kids away with murder in restaurants are a different breed. Out for a bite to a few weeks back, kid at the next table was scraping his knife between the prongs of his fork, it took the wife to politey ask him to stop, as the parents weren't bothered.

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23 hours ago, virginton said:

^^^ desperate clutching at straws

We've already had no child social settings for just over a century - they're called real pubs and the behaviour in them is fucking great thanks.

Not sure why you think I am desperately clutching at straws,  I was merely suggesting all adult areas on planes might not go as swimmingly well as the airline thinks.

For the record, I have no kids nor do I drink (although I do frequent pubs and have worked in them, not sure what you deem "a real pub", but I think the one I worked it would probably fall into that category. In a scheme where kids were never seen) so I have no dog in this fight.  😉

I fly quite a bit and only time I have personally had an issue with a flight (other than the one in Jordan last year that hit the tarmac, then shot up in the air again, circled for 25 mins before finally landing without telling us what was going on...turns out it was hit by a crosswind apparently) was when a mate thought it was a good idea to walk from the terminal to a plane while smoking a cigarette.  To say it did not go down well with the ground and flight crew was an understatement.

 

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Bunch of grumpy old b*****ds on here. We were all kids at one stage and most probably an annoying wee c**t as well. As a father to more than a few I've never actually had a bad flight with any of them, I have been on plenty with screaming babies but mainly just feel sorry for the parents who are trying their best to calm them. Wee twats who constantly kick the back of my seat however, that gets me wanting to kill their parents.

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Think kids at wedding depends on the ages, I've been at a wedding where multiple babies and toddlers screamed through the ceremony and the parents had to take them outside while the celebrant stopped the ceremony, that was pretty grim.

I'm getting married in 2 months and we decided early on it would be easiest for blanket ban on kids- other than my fiancee's son, and nieces and nephews - so no friends' kids whether 18 months or 15 years. Youngest niece / nephew is 6 years old so should be able to behave for the duration and then they can run about mental after that, we've got wee activity packs for them so they don't get too bored. We did think about setting up a games console in one of the rooms during the reception but then realised that would be hijacked by the adults. Agree that making exceptions is shitty.

We're also going to a child free hotel as part of our honeymoon and I did spend the car journey back from booking it googling whether "adults only" meant it was a swingers hotel. It's not*

*Or so it says, we'll see when we get there I guess but look out for pineapples and flamingos I think?!

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13 minutes ago, tree house tam said:

I have been on plenty with screaming babies but mainly just feel sorry for the parents who are trying their best to calm them.

Aye I've no issue with that. Every parent goes through it and babies are exactly easy to keep under control. When the kids are at an age where they understand instruction it's a different ball game. It's then the fault of the shitty parents. 

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23 hours ago, throbber said:

Because weddings are a family event and kids are a huge part of the families of people who are attending. Children are highly likely the next step in the lives of the couple who are getting married as well. I’d quite gladly not bring my own children along to a wedding but I think it’s generally bad craic particularly if wedding is in a difficult place to get to.

My cousin got married in middle of nowhere in 2010 and his wife insisted on no kids. His sister had an 18 month old and asked if they could make an exception to bring her along but no such luck so she and her husband had to take turns of watching over the baby and couldn’t get to enjoy the wedding at all. Needless to say the bride allowed a few exceptions from ladies on her side of the invite and the amount of bitterness it all created is incredible and still rages on to this day.

The way I see this is that he chose to treat his sister that way. His wife allowed exceptions but he didn't. He could have chosen to do likewise.  

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If people want to pay more for a child free area on a flight, then so be it.  I don't see an issue with kids not being invited to weddings, surely it allows the grown ups to enjoy their day/night more.  That said, if you're not happy with your kids not being invited then don't go.  Weddings are a bizarre event for causing all sorts of drama, that's why I did it on the shady with only close family and friends.  Think there were about 15 people at mine and only those who were invited knew it was happening.  My brothers kids were at the service at a hotel in central Edinburgh and for a few hours after, but they got picked up shortly afterwards so the grown ups could go out and enjoy themselves in the evening. I'd imagine a lot of the time, if a certain kid or family of kids are excluded and others are not, then it may be that the kids are just feral little arseholes who cant behave themselves. 

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