AmericanFan Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 7 hours ago, ConcernedReferee said: United have won the Scottish cup twice in living memory, they've been in a European cup final and won the Scottish League, they've made more money than outgoing transfers and have a slightly higher average match-day attendance. As I'm sure most United supporters will happily tell you they've also got a 100% undefeated record against a certain Spanish superclub. Without calling in an expert on Dundonian football history I'm just cherry picking facts here but it's hard to find an argument that Dundee FC can better that. Even Lee Wilkie bailed for the tangerine half. Interesting to learn Ross County made the cup final. That's wild. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 hours ago, AmericanFan said: Interesting to learn Ross County made the cup final. That's wild. It's like learning someone was heavyweight champion of the world, but finding out their opponent was a kid in a wheelchair. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
central staggie Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 11 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Ross County fans still seething we took the fat mess Brittain without any bother, then managed to saddle them with him again while signing a far superior player with the money they gave us. Its great to see. In my experience, this seems to be a bigger issue for your fans than ours. Brittain would have strolled into your team swirling a kane, and you know it. 11 hours ago, Matty-RCFC said: Hate St Johnstone as much as IC&T; eh?!?!?! Absolutely. Maybe the fact we never play ICT so much these days has blurred the lines, but f**k them both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 12 hours ago, ConcernedReferee said: United have won the Scottish cup twice in living memory, they've been in a European cup final and won the Scottish League, they've made more money than outgoing transfers and have a slightly higher average match-day attendance. As I'm sure most United supporters will happily tell you they've also got a 100% undefeated record against a certain Spanish superclub. Without calling in an expert on Dundonian football history I'm just cherry picking facts here but it's hard to find an argument that Dundee FC can better that. Even Lee Wilkie bailed for the tangerine half. 10 hours ago, johnnydun said: Dundee have exactly the same amount of major honours as United, including the top league as you point out. Therefore are not more successful than us. Two of your reasons is that they have made more money in out going transfer and have a slightly higher match day attendance? Fairly clutching there chief. With Dens highest attendance being 43,000 and Tannadump's being 28,000, that probably evens your flying Unicorn stats out. Who hasn't beaten Barca? In fact Dundee were the first club from outside Spain to beat both Barcelona and Real Madrid at their home grounds. We have also got a perfect home record against AC Milan, but they are shite of course. "I'm just cherry picking facts here but it's hard to find an argument that Dundee FC can better that." We have won 344 more league games than United. But I won't use this fact as I see as as pretty equal over history, as these records will never change or have a time limit on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, RawB93 said: It's like learning someone was heavyweight champion of the world, but finding out their opponent was a kid in a wheelchair. Would be less farcical than most boxing matches lately, tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Clubs I support: Morton Clubs that I would gladly see suffer not only an administration, but a financial crisis of such devastating severity that it eternally eliminated the appetite of the local community to ever house a professional football club ever again: Ayr, Partick, Queen's Park, Airdire, Falkirk, Clyde, Dundee, Celtic, Rangers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 10 hours ago, johnnydun said: Dundee have exactly the same amount of major honours as United, including the top league as you point out. Therefore are not more successful than us. Two of your reasons is that they have made more money in out going transfer and have a slightly higher match day attendance? Fairly clutching there chief. With Dens highest attendance being 43,000 and Tannadump's being 28,000, that probably evens your flying Unicorn stats out. Who hasn't beaten Barca? In fact Dundee were the first club from outside Spain to beat both Barcelona and Real Madrid at their home grounds. We have also got a perfect home record against AC Milan, but they are shite of course. "I'm just cherry picking facts here but it's hard to find an argument that Dundee FC can better that." We have won 344 more league games than United. But I won't use this fact as I see as as pretty equal over history, as these records will never change or have a time limit on. The cope is dripping off this post HARD I think Dundee fans are the only folk in the country who think Dundee United aren't a bigger club tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 minutes ago, Jives Miguel said: I think Dundee fans are the only folk in the country who think Dundee United aren't a bigger club tbh. Yet to hear an argument that they are. Because there isn't one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 55 minutes ago, Jives Miguel said: The cope is dripping off this post HARD I think Dundee fans are the only folk in the country who think Dundee United aren't a bigger club tbh. Apart from a brief period in the 80s, it's obvious that Dundee are bigger. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, johnnydun said: Yet to hear an argument that they are. Because there isn't one. How about the argument that to anyone under the age of 70 Dundee have been a trophyless, yo-yo team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 minutes ago, Jives Miguel said: How about the argument that to anyone under the age of 70 Dundee have been a trophyless, yo-yo team? No, as explained before, records don't have a time limit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, johnnydun said: No, as explained before, records don't have a time limit. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 9 minutes ago, Jives Miguel said: OK, why don't we just go back as far as 28-March-2023? Dundee - 1 Promotion. United - 1 Relegation. See what I mean? It’s ridiculous to set a time limit as if nothing before has ever happened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jives Miguel said: Clubs I support: Morton Clubs that I would gladly see suffer not only an administration, but a financial crisis of such devastating severity that it eternally eliminated the appetite of the local community to ever house a professional football club ever again: Ayr, Partick, Queen's Park, Airdire, Falkirk, Clyde, Dundee, Celtic, Rangers This bait reminded me of your eye-bleeding Partick Thistle Liquidation / Gravedancing thread which brought quite a few of your fellow roasters crawling out of the woodwork. I hope you enjoyed your team's multiple beatings from the still very much operational and unliquidated Jags this season. Edited March 28 by VictorOnopko 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Jives Miguel said: How about the argument that to anyone under the age of 70 Dundee have been a trophyless, yo-yo team? Someone who's now 70 could quite conceivably have played in the Dundee side that last won the League Cup. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 15 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Ross County fans still seething we took the fat mess Brittain without any bother, then managed to saddle them with him again while signing a far superior player with the money they gave us. Its great to see. Wotherspoon? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 hours ago, Jives Miguel said: The cope is dripping off this post HARD I think Dundee fans are the only folk in the country who think Dundee United aren't a bigger club tbh. Agree with you here. Dundee might be the bigger club to pensioners but it’s been 50 years since they’ve won anything, so realistically you’d have to around 60 to even remember a cup win. They’ve spent most of the last two decades in the Championship/First Division & have a smaller fanbase nowadays than United as well (United have a higher average attendance despite being in a lower tier this season). In my lifetime Dundee United have always been a pretty solid team, winning trophies, reaching cup finals, playing in Europe etc. Perhaps historically Dundee were bigger, but it’s not the case anymore. It’s like arguing Queens Park are one of the biggest clubs in Scotland because they won loads of trophies outwith most people’s living memory. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 59 minutes ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said: Agree with you here. Dundee might be the bigger club to pensioners but it’s been 50 years since they’ve won anything, so realistically you’d have to around 60 to even remember a cup win. They’ve spent most of the last two decades in the Championship/First Division & have a smaller fanbase nowadays than United as well (United have a higher average attendance despite being in a lower tier this season). In my lifetime Dundee United have always been a pretty solid team, winning trophies, reaching cup finals, playing in Europe etc. Perhaps historically Dundee were bigger, but it’s not the case anymore. It’s like arguing Queens Park are one of the biggest clubs in Scotland because they won loads of trophies outwith most people’s living memory. Ah the Perth chat with time limits. So it depends your age on how you determine how big a club are? Gotcha. "They’ve spent most of the last two decades in the Championship/First Division" I understand you want to have a pop with it being your big derby week, but stop telling lies min. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 6 hours ago, johnnydun said: Yet to hear an argument that they are. Because there isn't one. More recently successful would be my one. I can’t be bothered going to check the major trophies won but it’s like saying Queens Park are a huge club because they won a number of Scottish Cups back in the day. Dundee have pretty much been a joke club for my entire period watching Scottish football (1993-now). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 15 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Ah the Perth chat with time limits. So it depends your age on how you determine how big a club are? Gotcha. "They’ve spent most of the last two decades in the Championship/First Division" I understand you want to have a pop with it being your big derby week, but stop telling lies min. Just now, Sortmeout said: More recently successful would be my one. I can’t be bothered going to check the major trophies won but it’s like saying Queens Park are a huge club because they won a number of Scottish Cups back in the day. Dundee have pretty much been a joke club for my entire period watching Scottish football (1993-now). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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