Monkey Tennis Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 53 minutes ago, Dee Man said: What anyone "thinks" stands for absolutely nothing when it comes to comparing football clubs, particularly when you find out what you "think" bears absolutely no resemblance to reality. "I still think of Dundee Utd as a top 6 club". For f**k sake. Yes, I often think of Stenhousemuir as European champions, and Inter Milan as a Lowland League club. Therefore, they clearly are. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee jeemie Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 15 hours ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said: Not to mention the fact Dundee haven’t averaged over 7k fans since 00/01 (according to transfermarkt). United have done so in 17 seasons since then… Dundee United have won far more honours recently and played in Europe more often (especially recently). Played in Europe more often yes , but Dundee are still the last club in tayside to win a tie in Europe and progress to the next round 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derryboy62 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 The main difference between Dundee and Dundee Utd is that Dundee's support is generational. My dad, grandad, great grandad, great great grandad all supported the Dees and passed down the love that comes with that. Utd support is different in that the vast majority of their support isn't generational. In other words we're the good guys who won't change our club for anything. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 13 hours ago, Dee Man said: What anyone "thinks" stands for absolutely nothing when it comes to comparing football clubs, particularly when you find out what you "think" bears absolutely no resemblance to reality. "I still think of Dundee Utd as a top 6 club". For f**k sake. It’s hard to relate to a fan of the “wee team” in any particular rivalry so I’m not surprised we’ve got a different opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Derryboy62 said: The main difference between Dundee and Dundee Utd is that Dundee's support is generational. My dad, grandad, great grandad, great great grandad all supported the Dees and passed down the love that comes with that. Utd support is different in that the vast majority of their support isn't generational. In other words we're the good guys who won't change our club for anything. That doesn't even make sense. Do Dundee United fans just get spawned in a lab at age 18? Edited March 29 by Jives Miguel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 minutes ago, Jives Miguel said: That doesn't even make sense. Do Dundee United fans just get spawned in a lab at age 18? Have a close look at them next time you're at Tannadice and you'll realise that's more accurate than you think. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derryboy62 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 31 minutes ago, Jives Miguel said: That doesn't even make sense. Do Dundee United fans just get spawned in a lab at age 18? It clearly makes perfect sense if you have any brain cells. For the dafties out there I'll explain in dafty talk so you can understand too. A lot of Dundee utd fans used to support Dundee, Celtic and Rangers but jumped ship in the 80s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Dundee United are obviously the bigger club, but Dundee are less dislikable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Derryboy62 said: It clearly makes perfect sense if you have any brain cells. For the dafties out there I'll explain in dafty talk so you can understand too. A lot of Dundee utd fans used to support Dundee, Celtic and Rangers but jumped ship in the 80s. They found a moral compass? Nothing to do with winning trophies! Edited March 29 by Highlandmagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Derryboy62 said: It clearly makes perfect sense if you have any brain cells. For the dafties out there I'll explain in dafty talk so you can understand too. A lot of Dundee utd fans used to support Dundee, Celtic and Rangers but jumped ship in the 80s. At least Dundee United fans fully made the switch. Dundee fans just maintained their diet ***nery. Edited March 29 by Jives Miguel -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 7 minutes ago, Derryboy62 said: It clearly makes perfect sense if you have any brain cells. For the dafties out there I'll explain in dafty talk so you can understand too. A lot of Dundee utd fans used to support Dundee, Celtic and Rangers but jumped ship in the 80s. 40 years ago aye? So that accounts for all the 50-60 year olds in their support. What about all the younger ones? In my Tayside wanderings for work and leisure, the average age of a DU fan is not noticeably older than a Dee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Logically, we are the bigger club. I can completely understand why some people would suggest United are bigger due to recency bias in their lifetime as we've been ran by some amount of absolute charlatans that would make Rangers, Livi & any other basket case club benefactors look positively competent over the last 40 or so years. United have been much better run than us and that shows with their now regular higher attendances and more recent accomplishments. To coin a phrase from St Johnstone's manager, however, it looks like natural order is being restored in recent times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said: They found a moral compass? Nothing to do with winning trophies! Moral compass? Is it still football we're talking about? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Our supporter faction, Dee4Life, recently did a survey of their members and it worked out that the average member of the group was 60 years olds and lived in the city. We definitely have an ageing fanbase and have struggled until the Americans took over at least, to try and cultivate the younger generation to attend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Literally every achievement Dundee have ever had has been bettered by Dundee United, and more recently. Still to hear a single valid argument as to why Dundee would be considered the bigger club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 minute ago, Jives Miguel said: Literally every achievement Dundee have ever had has been bettered by Dundee United, and more recently. Still to hear a single valid argument as to why Dundee would be considered the bigger club. It depends how one looks at it. If it's roots, tradition , original club, then Dundee are bigger. Regards success United are bigger. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stiles Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, Wee jeemie said: Played in Europe more often yes , but Dundee are still the last club in tayside to win a tie in Europe and progress to the next round Wiki shows Dundee's last Euro adventure as 2003 when you cuffed Albanians Vllaznia Shkodër to go through. Is that correct? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 As regards my opinion of spfl's clubs. Thistle- I will die a moaning old curmudgeon Jags fan. Suffered them since 1969. You think I would have learned by now. Have time for - Dundee, Ayr, St. Mirren, Aberdeen. Meh- Most of the rest. Dislike - Morton, Kilmarnock, Airdrie. Loathe Celtic Utterly loathe Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 14 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: Yes, I often think of Stenhousemuir as European champions, and Inter Milan as a Lowland League club. Therefore, they clearly are. Those crazy European nights at Ochilview were awesome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Clearly we really need a full, ordered list of Scotland's biggest clubs so the perennial second tier fans can have a sensible, rational discussion about not being placed higher due to their massive travelling support/their great-great-grandpa seeing them lift a trophy after making it back from The Great War. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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