Petty Things That Get On Your Nerves...

[Silvio Tattiescone]

12 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

How would that help given the vast majority of people don't live within 20 minutes of the city centre and that superfluous city centre office space is one of the problems?

70% of the population live in the central belt and every town has a problem with bg empty retail spaces.  They won't just be for office space, they'll be used as student study pods, pop-up craft centres etc. 

[Sergeant Wilson]

I'd say the biggest problem in Glasgow city centre, is not enough people live there. Workers will come and go, albeit in smaller numbers. But if more people lived there shops and pubs etc would be busy with residents. An effort to have affordable housing replacing redundant commercial space might solve the over and under provision of each type of property.

[Hillonearth]

3 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

I'd say the biggest problem in Glasgow city centre, is not enough people live there. Workers will come and go, albeit in smaller numbers. But if more people lived there shops and pubs etc would be busy with residents. An effort to have affordable housing replacing redundant commercial space might solve the over and under provision of each type of property.

Yeah, aside from those few developments of flats in Tradeston, the Broomielaw and a couple of bits of the Merchant City it's pretty much empty...you need to get to maybe Anderston or Townhead before you find actual residential areas. Given the scarcity of housing it must be worth a punt for a housing association to take over some of those old shops and convert them into flats....probably not in Sauchiehall St though when you consider how flammable that whole street seems to be.

Down the line I don't think there's much future for city centres...the 5 days a week in the office thing is never coming back, and people seem to prefer to either shop online or go to retail parks rather than trail round the town.

Folk maybe have a vague hankering for the city centre shops to remain open as long as THEY don't have to go there - I'm not sure if there's a similar fetishisation of "the high street" here that they seem to have such a boner for in England....that 1950s Ladybird book vision of a street of cutesy butchers, bakers and candlestick makers....you'll maybe see rows of shops like that in small affluent places like say Giffnock or Bearsden, but I don't think it's ever been the reality of our town centres.

 

[vikingTON]

3 hours ago, scottsdad said:

The way the BBC news website breaks Scotland into pieces. "Tayside and Central" - lumping civilisation like Falkirk in with the outer reaches of places like Forfar makes no sense.

Both are seaside league diddy outposts so it sounds about right to me. 

Edited December 12, 2022 by vikingTON

[Cosmic Joe]

3 hours ago, virginton said:

Both are seaside league diddy outposts so it sounds about right to me. 

virginton playing virginton bingo again

[Bigmouth Strikes Again]

14 hours ago, Newbornbairn said:

70% of the population live in the central belt and every town has a problem with bg empty retail spaces.  They won't just be for office space, they'll be used as student study pods, pop-up craft centres etc. 

All part of Schwabs New World Order plan, everybody will be living in these 'pods'.

You will own f**k all and be happy.

Thank you.

[coprolite]

15 hours ago, Newbornbairn said:

70% of the population live in the central belt and every town has a problem with bg empty retail spaces.  They won't just be for office space, they'll be used as student study pods, pop-up craft centres etc. 

It's good that people are thinking creatively about how to use those spaces but they're going to have to do a lot to convince people to go to "pop up craft centres". All sounds very like hipster based wishful thinking. 

[scottsdad]

15 hours ago, Newbornbairn said:

70% of the population live in the central belt and every town has a problem with bg empty retail spaces.  They won't just be for office space, they'll be used as student study pods, pop-up craft centres etc. 

I'm sure we had a thread here trying to define the central belt. Some folk suggesting Ayr was in the central belt but Stirling wasn't. Utter madness. 

[Hedgecutter]

Defrosting the water feeder in the garden only for the birds to ignore it, even when it's dripping and clearly showing a liquidous state.

Ungrateful little sh*ts.  I'll be claiming that 10p of kettle lecky back through putting out slightly less food in the spring.

I mean, look at this little dumbf*** sparrow c*** just staring at it:

Edited December 13, 2022 by Hedgecutter

[invergowrie arab]

22 hours ago, Newbornbairn said:

70% of the population live in the central belt and every town has a problem with bg empty retail spaces.  They won't just be for office space, they'll be used as student study pods, pop-up craft centres etc. 

Just because there is empty retail spaces doesnt mean plucking any old idea out of thin air is a solution to that.

There's also a massive over provision of office spaces and university and college owned buildings in town centres.

Twenty minute neighbourhoods refer to walking, not trains and cars so in the absence of people actually living in city centres this idea doesnt qualify for that either.

Still, I'm sure the pop up craft market will be just the thing to save the high St.

[Mark Connolly]

It's annoying enough that I ended up reading an article from the Telegraph, but who the f**k calls Finnieston "WeMo"?

Quote

Long gone are the days when Glasgow’s Finnieston neighbourhood was a raffish and rundown ramble of houses built for workers powering the city’s burgeoning shipbuilding industry. Today ‘WeMo’ (West of Motorway), as local WAGs have dubbed it, is the city’s go-to hipster hub. The savvy set from Byres Road have upped sticks here, bringing their creativity and energy, whilst Finnieston retains enough of its raffish vibe to spice up the grand old sandstone buildings.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/united-kingdom/britains-15-coolest-neighbourhoods-how-see-like-local/

[Miguel Sanchez]

3 hours ago, Mark Connolly said:

It's annoying enough that I ended up reading an article from the Telegraph, but who the f**k calls Finnieston "WeMo"?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/united-kingdom/britains-15-coolest-neighbourhoods-how-see-like-local/

Local WAGs. Did you miss that bit?

[Mark Connolly]

Just now, Miguel Sanchez said:

Local WAGs. Did you miss that bit?

Wankers and Gimps?

[Miguel Sanchez]

1 minute ago, Mark Connolly said:

Wankers and Gimps?

^^^ raging that the Byres Road Savvy Set have upped sticks and left him behind

[Mark Connolly]

Just now, Miguel Sanchez said:

^^^ raging that the Byres Road Savvy Set have upped sticks and left him behind

ByRo, if you don't mind

[TxRover]

On 12/12/2022 at 12:22, Sergeant Wilson said:

I'd say the biggest problem in Glasgow city centre, is not enough people live there. Workers will come and go, albeit in smaller numbers. But if more people lived there shops and pubs etc would be busy with residents. An effort to have affordable housing replacing redundant commercial space might solve the over and under provision of each type of property.

While it’s an interesting idea, the demographics are wrong. In the City Center, the weekday/working hours people support a totally different business and service ecology than 24/7 residents support, especially if you focus on the affordable housing. For affordable housing you need to locate in an area that is not within a food desert (and lovely term, designating a locale with no supermarket or similar grocery store within a reasonable distance) and that allows for the provision of social services (often required in affordable living demos) within a short distance. You also need employment, and while some of that would come hand in hand with the developments associated with the new residents, that wouldn’t be sufficient. Then you have the lack of transportation service outside “conventional” hours, where many people in affordable housing have jobs with non-conventional hours.

The more successful developments recently have tended to be more boutique, with a shopping cluster co-located with housing, but the housing has been for the upper middle and lower upper class, generally, as they also have the income to support the development overall. The provision of the core customer base encourages stores and businesses to locate in the area, which then results in more custom from people from outside the immediate area due to variety, however, this also results in a business mix skewed toward a more affluent clientele.

[Cosmic Joe]

21 minutes ago, TxRover said:

While it’s an interesting idea, the demographics are wrong. In the City Center, the weekday/working hours people support a totally different business and service ecology than 24/7 residents support, especially if you focus on the affordable housing. For affordable housing you need to locate in an area that is not within a food desert (and lovely term, designating a locale with no supermarket or similar grocery store within a reasonable distance) and that allows for the provision of social services (often required in affordable living demos) within a short distance. You also need employment, and while some of that would come hand in hand with the developments associated with the new residents, that wouldn’t be sufficient. Then you have the lack of transportation service outside “conventional” hours, where many people in affordable housing have jobs with non-conventional hours.

The more successful developments recently have tended to be more boutique, with a shopping cluster co-located with housing, but the housing has been for the upper middle and lower upper class, generally, as they also have the income to support the development overall. The provision of the core customer base encourages stores and businesses to locate in the area, which then results in more custom from people from outside the immediate area due to variety, however, this also results in a business mix skewed toward a more affluent clientele.

You haven't been to Methil recently have you? 

[TxRover]

24 minutes ago, Cosmic Joe said:

You haven't been to Methil recently have you? 

That’s not a City Center, that’s a open sewer., 

[Cosmic Joe]

Just now, TxRover said:

That’s not a City Center, that’s a open sewer., 

A bit harsh on a former coal mining community. 

[Silvio Tattiescone]

Never the same since the Wonder Store shut