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63 year old West Bank Palestinian man who had converted to Judaism and changed his Arabic name to a Hebrew name. He'd done that in a bid to be allowed to live in Israel. An understandable desire given the enormous wealth disparity between the occupied and economically crippled West Bank then Israel. Despite voluntarily erasing his own identity in order to assume the identity of his colonisers, that wasn't enough. The Israeli state wanted nothing to do with him. He also faced persecution from West Bank authorities for his attempts. 

Yesterday he was shot dead, murdered execution-style, by an IDF reservist. It might've been at a checkpoint but the report says it was at a bus stop so more likely it was random harassment.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/palestinian-converted-judaism-shot-dead-by-israel-reservist

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Israel has declared an area of the occupied West Bank as state land - the biggest in decades, according to activists - which could now be used for settlement activity. The timing of the announcement, by far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, was significant, coinciding with the arrival in Israel of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken for talks on the Gaza war.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-68631712

 

They really are delivering a big FU to the Yanks, on the day the Russians and Chinese vetoed a US Ceasefire resolution. 

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The second camera angle when the footage replays is probably clearer. The boy is shopping with his granny and brother and he's placing items at the till. The soldier calls the boy over, repeatedly slaps the boy and strips him of his top which he later walks off with, stealing it from the boy. You see how the granny tries to protect her grandson while aware that she must be careful. The shopkeeper sits there while the soldier picks up and chucks down the items, seemingly to intimidate. 

Significant psychological harm being inflicted on a child. Yet an incident like that is only the dullest end of the blade when it comes to occupation.

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Republican Congressman, and former Christian Pastor, has alternative version of the Beatitudes. Speaking in Dundee, Michigan. We Dundonians take a great interest in all things Palestinian.

Rather than provide humanitarian aid in Gaza, the US should ensure it is subjected to atomic bombing the way that “Nagasaki and Hiroshima” were at the end of the second world war.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/31/tim-walberg-republican-congressman-gaza

 

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19 hours ago, Thane of Cawdor said:

Republican Congressman, and former Christian Pastor, has alternative version of the Beatitudes. Speaking in Dundee, Michigan. We Dundonians take a great interest in all things Palestinian.

Rather than provide humanitarian aid in Gaza, the US should ensure it is subjected to atomic bombing the way that “Nagasaki and Hiroshima” were at the end of the second world war.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/31/tim-walberg-republican-congressman-gaza

 

I do think there isn't enough political assassination nowadays. If you're a parliamentarian who calls for the bombing of a civilian population instead of aid then you get a bullet to the head for your troubles. That'll make these chumps think twice before doing so. 

I know over here there's the reframing of accountability as harassment and there would be a collective Lovejoying at this measure, and I imagine that there would be a doubling down from those who "don't negotiate with terrorists". I just feel that parliamentarians get away Scot free advocating for measures that would make the lives of so many utterly miserable (or unbearable in the case of disabled people being reassessed while depriving them of money). 

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1 minute ago, velo army said:

I do think there isn't enough political assassination nowadays. If you're a parliamentarian who calls for the bombing of a civilian population instead of aid then you get a bullet to the head for your troubles. That'll make these chumps think twice before doing so. 

I know over here there's the reframing of accountability as harassment and there would be a collective Lovejoying at this measure, and I imagine that there would be a doubling down from those who "don't negotiate with terrorists". I just feel that parliamentarians get away Scot free advocating for measures that would make the lives of so many utterly miserable (or unbearable in the case of disabled people being reassessed while depriving them of money). 

Given the new hate crime legislation introduced today, if he visited Scotland and said the same thing would he be picked up by the fuzz?

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Remember six months ago when it was absolutely outrageous to suggest Israel would ever bomb Al-Shifa hospital, to the point people were furiously making the obviously nonsense argument that it was a Hamas rocket? Now they've spent the last fortnight destroying every building of it and killed over 400 people there, the goalposts move and it's outrageous to believe they didn't have a just cause to do so.

This is the most abhorrent massacre so far in a so-called conflict that sees hundreds of war crimes a day. Patients and doctors executed, children crushed by tanks, the largest hospital completely out of use in a place where over 100K have been wounded and the population are already dying of starvation. Vile.

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On 31/03/2024 at 15:16, welshbairn said:

 

 

On 31/03/2024 at 15:04, Thane of Cawdor said:

Republican Congressman, and former Christian Pastor, has alternative version of the Beatitudes. Speaking in Dundee, Michigan. We Dundonians take a great interest in all things Palestinian.

Rather than provide humanitarian aid in Gaza, the US should ensure it is subjected to atomic bombing the way that “Nagasaki and Hiroshima” were at the end of the second world war.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/31/tim-walberg-republican-congressman-gaza

 

Palestinian evangelical Christian pastor. 

 

There's a generational problem in USA. It's not just the "Christian zionists" like Walberg. Secular liberal Biden signed into law a couple of weeks back a bill that ended all US contributions to UNRWA and gave almost $4B of weapons to Israel. I think this is partly why Netanyahu has been going so hard in the last decade or so. Turbo-charging West Bank expansion and constantly provoking Gazans, such as the mass shootings he ordered of Gazan demonstrators in 2018. He's been making hay while the sun is still shining. He realises that there's a unique generation in power right now in USA, a generation who had their worldviews unbalanced by the Cold War and happily sponsor Israel's displacement of the Palestinians. However, that generation will be replaced in USA sometime in the coming decades by younger Americans who, the data shows, don't support Israeli expansionism. So Netanyahu and the wider Israeli leadership are trying to rush the project through while they still can.

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2 hours ago, MONKMAN said:

7 Aid workers killed in an airstrike. At least 1 of each, British, Australian, American and Canadian nationals dead. Israel is a terrorist nation.

https://wck.org/news/gaza-team-update

Travelling in vehicles with the WCK logo, they'd coordinated their movements with the IDF, they were leaving a warehouse they'd just delivered food to. They knew they were aid workers and they were deliberately targeted them.

Pretty obvious what the IDF are up to here. The more aid organisations like this suspend their operations knowing their staff are at serious risk of being murdered this way, the more Palestinians will die of starvation and the closer Israel gets to their aim of the total ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

You'd think the deliberate murder of a British citizen by the IDF might give the government pause for thought over their unqualified support for Israel where they've callously disregarded 30K+ Palestinians, but sadly we're at the point where there really don’t seem to be any red lines: arms sales and complicity in this genocide will continue no matter what.

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14 hours ago, Dunning1874 said:

Remember six months ago when it was absolutely outrageous to suggest Israel would ever bomb Al-Shifa hospital, to the point people were furiously making the obviously nonsense argument that it was a Hamas rocket? Now they've spent the last fortnight destroying every building of it and killed over 400 people there, the goalposts move and it's outrageous to believe they didn't have a just cause to do so.

This is the most abhorrent massacre so far in a so-called conflict that sees hundreds of war crimes a day. Patients and doctors executed, children crushed by tanks, the largest hospital completely out of use in a place where over 100K have been wounded and the population are already dying of starvation. Vile.

Exactly this, and add the 7 aid workers being targeted. How are we not demanding an immediate cease-fire and halting the sale of any arms sales to Israel.

Instead we get nonsense filling the news like JK Rowling saying this person is not a woman, he's a man, come and arrest me then, and the fucking useless PM saying he backs her stance.

 

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Regarding the much condemned slogan "From the river to the sea", check out Bibi's son's profile.

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He's currently hiding away in Miami with Shin Bet agents for personal security.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/protesters-boo-yair-netanyahu-for-staying-put-in-miami-rather-than-returning-to-israel-amid-war/#:~:text=Securing Yair Netanyahu's stay in,million (%24680%2C000) to date.

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4 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

It’s about time Iran fucking stepped up here.

And that’s saying something.

Given the Consulate strike and Israel’s recent “mistakes”, I wouldn’t be surprised by a missile/cruise missile/drone/bomb on an Israeli building somewhere in about two to three weeks is all. I don’t see Hezbollah having the force to seriously bother Israeli operations in Gaza. If Britain would step up after this WCK atrocity, and publicly demand the U.S. and other Western countries join them in stopping all offensive weapons supply to Israel indefinitely, perhaps we’d get somewhere, but neither government is willing to do anything.

Unfortunately, U.S. boots on the ground isn’t an option in that part of the world, or landing a Marine Expeditionary Unit to secure the area for a quay and relief supply distribution would compel Israel to avoid striking a pretty large area around it. No one else has the force structure and/or leverage to make it work…but the U.S. standing in the area would make them targets for those they would be trying to help.

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7 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

It’s about time Iran fucking stepped up here.

And that’s saying something.

I understand the frustration but military intervention, no matter what direction it comes from, invariably leads to even more death and destruction.

Diplomacy is the antidote to militarism and that's where the failure lies. As TxRover points out above, the weapons flow has been key. The way I see it, its not so much "Biden not standing up to Netanyahu/Israel", but more so Biden being a fanatical facilitator of the long-standing arrangements between US government and US weapons manufacturers. 

We had $4B sent to Israel just a couple of Fridays ago by Biden's administration then we got this headline on Monday there and it wasn't an April Fool's:

There is so much profit being made from all this misery.

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3 hours ago, Freedom Farter said:

I understand the frustration but military intervention, no matter what direction it comes from, invariably leads to even more death and destruction.

Diplomacy is the antidote to militarism and that's where the failure lies. As TxRover points out above, the weapons flow has been key. The way I see it, its not so much "Biden not standing up to Netanyahu/Israel", but more so Biden being a fanatical facilitator of the long-standing arrangements between US government and US weapons manufacturers. 

We had $4B sent to Israel just a couple of Fridays ago by Biden's administration then we got this headline on Monday there and it wasn't an April Fool's:

There is so much profit being made from all this misery.

And so much paid by the US tax payer,

How much aid does the US give to Israel? (usafacts.org)

The United States committed over $3.3 billion in foreign assistance to Israel in 2022, the most recent year for which data exists.[1] About $8.8 million of that went toward the country's economy, while 99.7% of the aid went to the Israeli military.

They cannot fund their schools or hospitals but they can pretend to hand money to Israel when in fact it going direct to their own arms industry paying nice share dividends to the already rich to make weapons to kill folk.

God Bless America.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, MEADOWXI said:

And so much paid by the US tax payer,

How much aid does the US give to Israel? (usafacts.org)

The United States committed over $3.3 billion in foreign assistance to Israel in 2022, the most recent year for which data exists.[1] About $8.8 million of that went toward the country's economy, while 99.7% of the aid went to the Israeli military.

They cannot fund their schools or hospitals but they can pretend to hand money to Israel when in fact it going direct to their own arms industry paying nice share dividends to the already rich to make weapons to kill folk.

God Bless America.

 

 

Yeah! God knows the mess we would be in without the good Old US of A.

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