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Karen Gibson is the newly-appointed physio. Paul Smith was the assistant manager until a few weeks back when he left, and hasn't yet been replaced. Laurie Ellis as first-team coach (and player) is effectively the other member of the management team at present.

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First and foremost, I think that Murray's next two games are vital. Win them and it'll pretty much be everybody asking for him out. The guy has had a brutal time in terms of squad injuries for the past year since McGurn got injured. We had Paul Watson out injured for ages following on from that, as well as the likes of Elliot, Hill, Barr and Cuthbert all out at various points. We've yet to see what I'd imagine would be any semblance of a first choice defence throughout the course of this season. Once we get Hill, Barr and McGurn in the team playing consistently, I think it'll help things dramatically.

If we do look away from Murray, I'd hope we approach Danny Lennon. Aside from him I'd take Derek Adams. I'd rather we didn't go for dinosaurs like Calderwood or Campbell.

If Murray had everyone available I think he'd still be sticking to the same shite system. I reckon its the only one he knows.

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Finally got round to reading Unthinkable this week. (My review should be appearing in a well-known footie mag in the next few weeks.)

Excellent work. Lots of memories, and a top effort in getting so many people to contribute.

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I am not a fan of Grant Murray. His tactical ability seems close to non existent. He must take responsibility for the current situation. HE signed McGurn and Hill.in the summer when he KNEW they were injured. Having said that the Board must also shoulder some of the blame. Where is the BIGGER squad. They defended Murrays performance last season by blaming lack of numbers but the squad this year is almost exactly the same size. Some of the squad we all know will never feature so the usable squad is almost still too small.

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I am not a fan of Grant Murray. His tactical ability seems close to non existent. He must take responsibility for the current situation. HE signed McGurn and Hill.in the summer when he KNEW they were injured. Having said that the Board must also shoulder some of the blame. Where is the BIGGER squad. They defended Murrays performance last season by blaming lack of numbers but the squad this year is almost exactly the same size. Some of the squad we all know will never feature so the usable squad is almost still too small.

Hill wasn't injured in the summer though, and had started pre-season when he pulled up with a hernia. Same goes for Barr. As for squad size, the current squad is one player bigger than the team that finished last year, being the devil's adovcate it's actually considerably stronger in terms of numbers than the one that started last year.

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I'm not the biggest fan of Grant Murray either but if anyone thinks the board will sack him when we're sitting 3rd, 4th or 5th is on cloud coo-coo land. It's a psition we'd have been relatively happy with at the start of the season. Some of our results are unacceptable but his removal just isn't happening.

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Hill wasn't injured in the summer though, and had started pre-season when he pulled up with a hernia.

I can't be arsed looking for it but wasn't it publicised that Hill was playing through this injury, even during the cup final in April?

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I can't be arsed looking for it but wasn't it publicised that Hill was playing through this injury, even during the cup final in April?

Yes but was mis-diagnosed by the old physio which is why he didn't get the op until the season had started
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Can't understand this. He did well for Cowden last season.

This is what bemuses me even more ... Going through this thread so far this season it has been littered with Cowden fans all saying how good/great/brilliant/consistent/awesome he was for them, and whilst im not debating he may have been great last season, it makes me question what the hell has went wrong with him this season ! Perhaps he just likes the other side of Fife a touch more :P

You would think the fact Conroy can play LB we would shove him their for a game or 3 and start McKay LM, perhaps that would give McKeown the boot up the rear end that he needs ! Obviously Murrays not that smart though ...

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Can't understand this. He did well for Cowden last season.

I think we were spoilt last season by having Booth who was constantly wanting to get forward and support Cardle. McKeown just seems to get terrified about crossing the half way line. He also seems very suspect at dealing with long balls either misjudging it or just giving away possession. It's a pity as I know Cowden fans rated him so was looking forward to seeing what he could do for us. I'll admit, minus a goal against us at Starks, I can't remember him sticking out as anything special when I'd seen him.

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Still lacks strength in depth.

Our Left Back has been utterly dreadful for his entire time at the club, yet is under no threat at all.

Of course we still lack strength in depth. We're never going to have a big enough squad for a specialist replacement for every position. And the compromise we made this season was at full-back, which are the two positions where the back-up comes from utility players rather than specialists. Which is unfortunate, given that McKeown has struggled at times.

(It's also unfortunate that the injuries to centre-backs has denied us the option of changing things about - I'd have quite liked to see us play three centre-backs with Thomson and Conroy as wing-backs.)

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Of course we still lack strength in depth. We're never going to have a big enough squad for a specialist replacement for every position. And the compromise we made this season was at full-back, which are the two positions where the back-up comes from utility players rather than specialists. Which is unfortunate, given that McKeown has struggled at times.

(It's also unfortunate that the injuries to centre-backs has denied us the option of changing things about - I'd have quite liked to see us play three centre-backs with Thomson and Conroy as wing-backs.)

We also seem to be down in numbers/quality up front. Last season we had Baird, Elliot, Spence, Smith, and possibly Vaughan if you count him as a forward. Cardle was also a goal threat. This season we have Nade, Stewart and the permanently injured or off form Elliot. We seem to have lost a lot of goals from the team.

In short, the strength in depth that was noted as a significant problem last season, doesn't appear to have been addressed.

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I think we were spoilt last season by having Booth who was constantly wanting to get forward and support Cardle. McKeown just seems to get terrified about crossing the half way line. He also seems very suspect at dealing with long balls either misjudging it or just giving away possession. It's a pity as I know Cowden fans rated him so was looking forward to seeing what he could do for us. I'll admit, minus a goal against us at Starks, I can't remember him sticking out as anything special when I'd seen him.

Certainly wasn't afraid of crossing the half way line last season, as Rovers fans should know. He is fast and can hit a ball too.

If he isn't doing this, he's been told not to.

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We also seem to be down in numbers/quality up front. Last season we had Baird, Elliot, Spence, Smith, and possibly Vaughan if you count him as a forward. Cardle was also a goal threat. This season we have Nade, Stewart and the permanently injured or off form Elliot. We seem to have lost a lot of goals from the team.

In short, the strength in depth that was noted as a significant problem last season, doesn't appear to have been addressed.

We still have Elliot and Vaughan from that list. Spence and Smith both struggled over last season as well. Conroy is a goal threat, as is Scott. The problem at the present minute is being down both Nade and Elliot which really limits us on how we play.

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I took a mate to his first Rovers game at Easter Road and within 15 minutes his summary of what he'd seen was "alright, but your left back is fucking awful". I couldn't argue.

Injuries haven't helped, but then neither does keeping your better players on the bench as we did with Anderson for weeks.

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