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2 hours ago, stevoraith said:

It’s been a couple of days and I’m still not over the disappointment of Sunday, but it’s not at the result or the performance of the players, it’s at a section of our own support. 

I’ve seen a couple of mentions earlier in the thread about the young team and I feel the need to have a bit of a moan about the problems they cause with selfishness. 

My first Rovers game was in the mid 80s and I started going regularly in the early 90s. Travelled home and away through my late teens and early twenties until pals moved away and work and family came along. 

My daughter is now in her early teens and I’ve been taking her to the odd game for 5 or 6 years. This year she’s really bought into the feeling around the club and we ended up buying half season tickets and we’ve been to more away games this year than we managed home games the last couple of years. 

She is quite an anxious person so I always plan where we sit carefully. We have to be close to the end of a row so she can get out to the toilet easily and find her way back etc. 

I bought tickets for Sunday second row from the back on the end of a row for that exact reason. 

Unfortunately that was the exact area that the young team decided they were going to stand in, regardless of the fact they didn’t have tickets there. 

By the time we got through the massive queue for security and stood in a long queue to get a pie we didn’t head to our seats until about ten minutes before kick off. 

By that time the stair well was completely full of young lads who had decided to stand on the stairs to watch the game. 

I made the mistake of thinking I might be able to still get to my seat so pushed through them. 

When I got to the top all of the rows had about twice as many people as seats.  In the row I should have been in they were standing on the seats with some folk standing on the ground in front of the seat. 

I then got told “just go and sit somewhere else” by a 14 year old. 

How the suffering f*ck are you supposed to find two seats together in a sold out stand with ten minutes to go before kick-off? And why should I have to when I’ve deliberately picked good seats?

I went down the front, found a couple of empty seats, only for the owners to rock up about 30s later so we were on the hunt again. 

I squeezed in another row, next to another couple of guys who had been displaced from their seats up the back but as we were only 4 or 5 rows from the front, right in the corner and everyone was standing I could see very little and my daughter could see absolutely sod all. 

I was raging and she was in tears. 

As the half wore on I could see there were plenty free seats in the north east section (probably where a lot of the fannies up the back were supposed to be sitting) so at half time we moved over there which was better but the view was still shit and not what I’d chosen and by then the mood had been dampened. 

I know I wasn’t the only one that had to move because of them, I saw another guy with two daughters a lot younger than mine having to also go right down the front where they wouldn’t have been able to see. 

 

I’d really like to know if I’m alone in my thoughts that they cause almost as many negatives as positives at away games in particular. 

It’s made us think twice about travelling to more away games- I’ve seen them cause bother by standing in the wrong place at other grounds (Tannadice springs to mind) but we were lucky that it didn’t affect us. 

 

Can anyone think of what clubs can do to just make them sit in their allocated seat?

Are there any of them on here who can understand what problems they cause for others? Any parents who can have a word?

Does anyone else agree with me that they are a pain in the hoop?

 

I didn’t expect us to win the tie on Sunday, I just wanted to go up and show my appreciation to the team and have a good day out and I feel I had that ruined by selfish laddies. 

Unfortunately it's not only the young team that causes these kind of issues. At one of the home games (can't remember what game but it was a near sell out. I wasn't there due to work but the folk I sit beside told me) a guy came in with his 2 kids and sat in the row in front. He then got up with his son to go to the kiosk and left his daughter. One of the members of Fife Finest staggered in and sat next to the wee lassie, he was told someone was sitting there but told them where to go. The guy came back and asked him to move but was told to go sit somewhere else as that is where they always sit, the directors know they sit there and nobody would care. They almost came to blows with lots of shouting and swearing but the FF eventually moved a few seats away. The kids were upset and they disappeared at halftime, probably been scared away from attending another match.

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This is an issue the club need to deal with quickly otherwise it will escalate and it will drive people away especially those with young families. 

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On 26/05/2024 at 19:15, North West said:

How did that go today?

Well that result today is akin to a richt guid dry humping, ken.

 

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Look at my original post 24 points behind us , Pars 3 points off relegation playoffs and your having a go at the Rovers for losing in the play off final 😂😂😂😂😂😂 

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3 minutes ago, basher brash said:

Look at my original post 24 points behind us , Pars 3 points off relegation playoffs and your having a go at the Rovers for losing in the play off final 😂😂😂😂😂😂 

Put you mugwamps in your place before being promoted to this league. Will do so again this season with that fud you still have in charge of your team.

 

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2 hours ago, Nightmare said:

 Really no idea what the answer to this problem is, though.

 

3 hours ago, CountryBumpkin said:

I'm not sure what the answer is

Got a lot of thoughts on that post and have experienced similar at Hampden, which stopped me going to men's games for 7 years. 

But the answer... it's sections of real terracing. Not your "safe standing" pish, that still means allocated places you buy in advance, I mean the real stuff. That way people can gather where suits them. What used to happen before all seaters and what happens in lower leagues is that the bams congregate in one area and others stand at a distance from them correlating with the level of noise they want to make. Families, older people etc go to the seated areas - the stand.

The area behind the goal at Ross County should be terracing and there should be seats for away fans in the East Stand.

Also, family sections should be compulsory and sitting should be enforced. It's not right for tall adults to stand in front of kids.

Failing that, the only answer is for stewards to do their jobs and tell folk that if they don't go to their allocated seat, they're out. IMO their failure to do that is a breach of the stadium's safety certificate and councils should be getting informed and involved. What we have now is the worst of all worlds, with overcrowding, people standing in areas without crush barriers and with a load of trip hazards. 

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3 minutes ago, Beastie Russell said:

Probaly something to do with where the poster works 

He was away from Ayr at end of season , heard from someone today he was going elsewhere , 

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1 minute ago, Michael W said:

I am guessing Partick or Dunfermline. 

Most likely - no clubs like United in the league this season so most of us are probably battling to sign the same players - ourselves, Pars, Partick, Falkirk, Livi and Ayr. 

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Just now, CountryBumpkin said:

Just wait until the ITK people turn up again. 

Indeed. We had no reason to believe we were / are actually after Chalmers but here we are, disappointed that we've not got him and that he's gone to a rival  - Partick - or an also-ran - the Pars.

Gonna be a long close season...

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Aye, I do think one of the down sides of this season has been the behaviour of the fans at points, both inside Stark's Park and close by the stadium and away games. 

Not sure how the club manages it, but it certainly feels that they've tried very hard to accommodate the young team at Stark's, and the result is pitch invasions, pyro coming on the park and damaged seats. I can't imagine the club will be desperate to bend over backwards for them going forward. 

As someone else suggested though, it's not just very young fans. There were two guys in The Mallard after the game on Sunday, probably early to mid 20's, completely and utterly out their boxes, trying to smash up the vending machine when I was in. Absolutely mortifying, and all very off-putting.  

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Just now, Brashy's Boots said:

Indeed. We had no reason to believe we were / are actually after Chalmers but here we are, disappointed that we've not got him and that he's gone to a rival  - Partick - or an also-ran - the Pars.

Gonna be a long close season...

"Didny want him anyway, he's pish" 😆

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Just now, da_no_1 said:

"Didny want him anyway, he's pish" 😆

Was that not your mantra from season just ended, as your targets turned you down one by one?

He's not pish, but there's nothing to say we are after him. There will undoubtedly be much pishing of knickers over the coming weeks.

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