Cardle is Magic Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, The Laddie Gastineau said: You must be "over the moon" about signing Benedictus. I know we certainly are. I have no real opinion on it tbh. Find it hard to believe he can be much worse than some of the jokers we had at the back last season but we'll just have to wait and see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Ecosse83 said: Seems strange that Raith have only given Spencer another year, has he had injury problems before? I suspect he wants to keep options open, and also to wait to see how Murray’s tactics play out. He’s probably had some nibbles, but needs a solid year to lock in a move upward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 8 hours ago, HopeStreetWalker said: From the club statement today 'Replace the playing surface at the Falkirk Stadium within the next 2 to 3 years and carry out further Stadium maintenance, as well as, in the longer-term, consider our options for the future development of stadium infrastructure' Hang on here 'Further stadium maintenance' that must be up to the council who own the damn thing and charge the club mighty for using it. With the extra bonus of oncosts such as electricity seconded staff etc with a healthy % mark up. As Shadwell so eloquently outlined a few weeks ago we are leaseholders and all the club own is the playing surface not the ground it sits on. Seats in the grandstand but not the grandstand. 'Stadium maintenance' should be up to the owners ie the council. Why should the club invest in the improvement of the stadium infrastructure when we have no financial benefit in the increased value it accrues to the worth of the stadium complex. Not unless the council got us to sign up to maintaining and improving their white elephant for them. This stadium stitch up rely does piss me off. I am sure way back when that “stadium maintenance” guidance was set down that the council are indeed liable for the majority of it……..75%(?). If the council choose to spend £500k on the stadium, I am pretty sure that they would expect (demand) that FFC shell out £125k of that. Sadly, I believe the call of when and how much sits entirely with the council. If FFC said to the council we need you to spend £Xk, the council can say “no chance”. If the council say we are going to spend £XXk, FFC cannot say “no chance”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 9 hours ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: A QP poster said Haughey has agreed to invest for 8 years so time to establish the club. I think Mr Haughey is already drawing his horns in given the overspend at Little Hampden, high wages, and the likelihood of a home support < 200 at Ochilview. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Otis Blue said: So does that mean in 8 years time QP will have built a steady 8-10,000 fan base that will support the wage bill for high quality players, DOF, CEO and other hangers on without needing supplementary cash injections? Just wondering. Seems a bit far fetched. It’s totally far fetched. The greater Glasgow dividing lines are fully drawn. Rangers Celtic Partick Thistle fans won’t go near QP as it will only exist above L1 provided a Haughey type life support machine is in place. They will not “organically grow”. The minute a sugar daddy exits, down they will go. Ross County populate a similar orbit. Uncle Roy steps away, and down they go too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Thankfully, Ian Murray and raith aren’t really our problem next season. I think they’ve got rid of what they could get rid of and kept the key players they needed to - and can now recruit as they want to. Can see them being comfortably top 4 or better next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 hours ago, LeodhasXD said: To be fair Livingston limped onwards with only regular 700-1000 fans and are having a decent era right now. It's a gamble to sustain to when/if you reach a level of self sufficiency. Falkirk's finance statements indicate a similar approach of speculating to accumulate albeit without the backing of a singular sugar daddy. But so far I think it might be shrewd. I like Falkirk's first few signings - I'm ambivalent on the latest ones but last year's centre back showings were comical at best - and PJ is quality so I think that'll be a massive improvement. Livingston function with an entirely separate income stream though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 It's incredible that Falkirk fans still think crowd size is relevant to finances. A whole host of clubs above you make a fortune from other means. We earn more through our suites alone than you earn in season ticket money. Livingston I believe make a fortune hiring out their pitch. Ross County are the outliers but are you expecting them to drop any further than ICT? Who still look well set for top flight football regularly. This idea that clubs will "find their level" based on crowd size is nothing more than dreaming. Below the top 5 clubs in the country, crowd size becomes irrelevant if you can bring in money elsewhere. An extra 1000 fans is nothing. -11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 hours ago, LeodhasXD said: To be fair Livingston limped onwards with only regular 700-1000 fans and are having a decent era right now. It's a gamble to sustain to when/if you reach a level of self sufficiency. Falkirk's finance statements indicate a similar approach of speculating to accumulate albeit without the backing of a singular sugar daddy. But so far I think it might be shrewd. I like Falkirk's first few signings - I'm ambivalent on the latest ones but last year's centre back showings were comical at best - and PJ is quality so I think that'll be a massive improvement. Falkirk already have the infrastructure, fan base and stadium to sustain themselves at a higher level without the need for a sugar daddy, QP obviously don’t, your comparing apples and oranges. I really really hope not but the QP situation has all the hallmarks of another Gretna for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: It's incredible that Falkirk fans still think crowd size is relevant to finances. A whole host of clubs above you make a fortune from other means. We earn more through our suites alone than you earn in season ticket money. Livingston I believe make a fortune hiring out their pitch. Ross County are the outliers but are you expecting them to drop any further than ICT? Who still look well set for top flight football regularly. This idea that clubs will "find their level" based on crowd size is nothing more than dreaming. Below the top 5 clubs in the country, crowd size becomes irrelevant if you can bring in money elsewhere. An extra 1000 fans is nothing. Are clubs with larger fan bases not allowed to rent they’re pitches or facilities out for hire like? Maybe to the Shire every second week, or at nights to the local community, or maybe even to bands like the Killers ect. There must have been near a dozen summer concerts at the stadium now. Falkirks main issue right now is being stuck in league one because we have appointed a series of poor managers/players. Not only are there near zero away fans down here the prize money is also down circa 400k from what it is in the league above and down a million from what was is in the premier. On top of that attraction of sponsorship ect becomes harder, without our healthy support we’d already be part time! To say that support in numbers makes no difference to a football club is absolute ignorance/stupidity to be honest, clubs with considerably smaller fan bases wouldn’t have been able to sustain full time football for 4 seasons in this division without the help of a sugar daddy. The large and loyal support shelling out money every season is at least one thing the club can be proud off despite the fact it seems to annoy you. Edited June 11, 2022 by LatapyBairn. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: It's incredible that Falkirk fans still think crowd size is relevant to finances. A whole host of clubs above you make a fortune from other means. We earn more through our suites alone than you earn in season ticket money. Livingston I believe make a fortune hiring out their pitch. Ross County are the outliers but are you expecting them to drop any further than ICT? Who still look well set for top flight football regularly. This idea that clubs will "find their level" based on crowd size is nothing more than dreaming. Below the top 5 clubs in the country, crowd size becomes irrelevant if you can bring in money elsewhere. An extra 1000 fans is nothing. The mercenaries that run Scottish football (SPL) protect their own. I have no factual information you are referring to, but cant disagree that you make more money from you’re hospitality suites, considering the poor attendances you get. What you’ve failed to mention is the riches you get being simply for being in the SPL. Referring that extra 1000 fans to any team outside the SPL is nothing ? Get a Fckn grip mate. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bairnardo Posted June 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2022 "An extra 1000 paying customers is nothing" is one of the wildest takes anyone has ever put on this regularly mental thread.Fucking hell Random. 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 55 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: It's incredible that Falkirk fans still think crowd size is relevant to finances. A whole host of clubs above you make a fortune from other means. We earn more through our suites alone than you earn in season ticket money. Livingston I believe make a fortune hiring out their pitch. Ross County are the outliers but are you expecting them to drop any further than ICT? Who still look well set for top flight football regularly. This idea that clubs will "find their level" based on crowd size is nothing more than dreaming. Below the top 5 clubs in the country, crowd size becomes irrelevant if you can bring in money elsewhere. An extra 1000 fans is nothing. Absolute bollocks mate! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 48 minutes ago, Springfield said: The mercenaries that run Scottish football (SPL) protect their own. I have no factual information you are referring to, but cant disagree that you make more money from you’re hospitality suites, considering the poor attendances you get. What you’ve failed to mention is the riches you get being simply for being in the SPL. Referring that extra 1000 fans to any team outside the SPL is nothing ? Get a Fckn grip mate. Yeah, you're only against the "Self Preservation League" because you're not in it. Absolutely zero question you wouldn't bat an eyelid if Falkirk weren't shit. Absolutely zero mention of how League Two sides are far more self interested either, funnily. 38 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: "An extra 1000 paying customers is nothing" is one of the wildest takes anyone has ever put on this regularly mental thread. Fucking hell Random. It's true, the days of crowd size being a major thing are gone in the lower levels. Clubs like Dundee, Dunfermline, and yourselves, will probably have ~1k more season ticket holders than us this season, yet even ignoring prize money we'll bring in more money. The gap between the historical "bigger" clubs and the "smaller" clubs, defined by support, has vanished. It's mental to be assuming Livi/County will both plummet down the divisions simply because they have less fans than you. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Random is still hammered from last night obviously. Quite the start to the weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaints1877 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 There is no doubt that @RandomGuy. has a point. The revenue from hospitality, sponsors, prize money and other off field activities dwarfs income from the gates. Modern fitba is pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Paul Dixon signs for Peterhead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, gav-ffc said: Paul Dixon signs for Peterhead. Looked completely done last season, cue him having a stormer against us this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: It's incredible that Falkirk fans still think crowd size is relevant to finances. A whole host of clubs above you make a fortune from other means. We earn more through our suites alone than you earn in season ticket money. Livingston I believe make a fortune hiring out their pitch. Ross County are the outliers but are you expecting them to drop any further than ICT? Who still look well set for top flight football regularly. This idea that clubs will "find their level" based on crowd size is nothing more than dreaming. Below the top 5 clubs in the country, crowd size becomes irrelevant if you can bring in money elsewhere. An extra 1000 fans is nothing. What’s your idea of a fortune . Livingston make more from hiring out their pitch than they would from selling an extra 1000 tickets every week - is that right aye . That’s an expensive game of 5’s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejazz1 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Paul Dixon signs for Peterhead.Possibly in a player/coach capacity? Looks done but great experience and he as aspirations of staying in the game. Another one bites the dust [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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