The Falkirk FC Thread

[PedroMoutinho]

Clearly something has gone on to lead to Doug’s resignation, which I’m sure will come out in the fullness of time. 

There has been an unusual number of resignations over the last few months and the lack of stability with the FSS positions is particularly concerning.

Personally I’d like to see an independent chairman (who is not a patron) come in to provide a bit of leadership and accountability.

[Jackie Myles]

2 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

Clearly something has gone on to lead to Doug’s resignation, which I’m sure will come out in the fullness of time. 

There has been an unusual number of resignations over the last few months and the lack of stability with the FSS positions is particularly concerning.

Personally I’d like to see an independent chairman (who is not a patron) come in to provide a bit of leadership and accountability.

I agree an independent chairman would be a good idea . I'm sure this was originally mooted when the patrons first approached the club but not sure why it's never got off the ground.

[AL-FFC]

As I said yesterday is it possible that the ones being elected from the FSS just aren't aware of how much time needs to be put in until they are in position especially when trying to juggle a full time job.nTrying to do both as well as if you/they have a family is never going to be an easy task 

[bairn88]

3 minutes ago, AL-FFC said:

As I said yesterday is it possible that the ones being elected from the FSS just aren't aware of how much time needs to be put in until they are in position especially when trying to juggle a full time job.nTrying to do both as well as if you/they have a family is never going to be an easy task 

No - his likes of comments on Facebook are proof that is not the case. Something has happened, and given he seemed a very well liked and respected guy when he was appointed, it’s natural to wonder what happened. A real test for the transparency of the new regime - this is exactly when the old board would have had the NDA’s and threats out. 

[AL-FFC]

4 minutes ago, bairn88 said:

No - his likes of comments on Facebook are proof that is not the case. Something has happened, and given he seemed a very well liked and respected guy when he was appointed, it’s natural to wonder what happened. A real test for the transparency of the new regime - this is exactly when the old board would have had the NDA’s and threats out. 

I can't fathom out why folk want to know at the end of the day what happened is at board level, and from a point of view the only reason folk seem to want to know is just for gossip or doing an Isa (nosy b*ssas).  if it affects the long term future of the club then yes I could understand it but the end of the day there are disagreements in every work place yet life goes on without the knicker wetting of what's going on here.

[Bairnardo]

As I said yesterday is it possible that the ones being elected from the FSS just aren't aware of how much time needs to be put in until they are in position especially when trying to juggle a full time job.nTrying to do both as well as if you/they have a family is never going to be an easy task 

Seems like by far and away the most likely scenario to me.

Certainly the simplest that requires no conspiratorial speculation to back it up.

[Zbairn]

12 minutes ago, AL-FFC said:

I can't fathom out why folk want to know at the end of the day what happened is at board level, and from a point of view the only reason folk seem to want to know is just for gossip or doing an Isa (nosy b*ssas).  if it affects the long term future of the club then yes I could understand it but the end of the day there are disagreements in every work place yet life goes on without the knicker wetting of what's going on here.

Playing devil's advocate here..... but if you have one or two directors forming a clique and getting their mates involved (who are not Directors), it might just p**s off the others who have been voted on by the FSS.  Then you have a hostile atmosphere that descends into chaos !

We have just come out from that scenario with previous BoD's.... let's hope we are not moving back in that direction !

 

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, AL-FFC said:

I can't fathom out why folk want to know at the end of the day what happened is at board level, and from a point of view the only reason folk seem to want to know is just for gossip or doing an Isa (nosy b*ssas).  if it affects the long term future of the club then yes I could understand it but the end of the day there are disagreements in every work place yet life goes on without the knicker wetting of what's going on here.

Conjecture, speculation, theorising are all key components in the lifeblood of a football forum.

People want to know/have an interest/have concerns because of the track record of club custodians in our recent past. From Deans (V1) through Fulston and on through the likes of GC and last season’s BoD, for people to have no interest until the sh1t hits the fan isn’t really a compelling strategy.

If you have no interest, then pass by those postings. No one will take offence at that. Churning out the good old “knicker wetting” dig isn’t exactly the best policy though.

Just as there is no proof positive of some sort of fracture at Boardroom level, it’s equally true to say that there is no proof positive that there isn’t.
I don’t think any of the concerned posters are throwing out insults at those who choose not to buy into the possibility that there’s trouble at t’mill, and so a bit of ridicule in their direction isn’t called for either.

[AL-FFC]

 

12 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said:

Conjecture, speculation, theorising are all key components in the lifeblood of a football forum.

People want to know/have an interest/have concerns because of the track record of club custodians in our recent past. From Deans (V1) through Fulston and on through the likes of GC and last season’s BoD, for people to have no interest until the sh1t hits the fan isn’t really a compelling strategy.

If you have no interest, then pass by those postings. No one will take offence at that. Churning out the good old “knicker wetting” dig isn’t exactly the best policy though.

Just as there is no proof positive of some sort of fracture at Boardroom level, it’s equally true to say that there is no proof positive that there isn’t.
I don’t think any of the concerned posters are throwing out insults at those who choose not to buy into the possibility that there’s trouble at t’mill, and so a bit of ridicule in their direction isn’t called for either.

I get what your saying but I think some folk are reading into it like a season of Game of Thrones. I think everyone knows they WILL make mistakes but that's what makes us human.  If there is an underlying concern that Doug has discovered that affects the long term future of FFC then I understand it but unless it affects the immediate and future of FFC then there are always going to be disagreements .  It doesn't mean we need to know that the board fell out with each other over whether the food stalls served chicken curry pies or chicken and mushroom.

Not to mention in all fairness they have sent out notifications monthly on updates on what's happening behind the scenes with transparency.

it doesn't mean I don't give a sh*t about what happens at FFC as I do, it just means I understand there are always going to be disagreements or other issues behind that scenes that I don't need to know about whether it be personalities or not.

At the same time if people are trying to turn it into a pals act with getting folk in due to their position within the club then all we have done is replaced one model  that was flawed with another one that's flawed but only thing that gives anyone the warm and fuzzy about it is they are fans and not folk like the coffee baron.

Edited August 3, 2022 by AL-FFC

[Kircer bairn]

1 hour ago, FFC 1876 said:

Nope just Connolly and Carrol in the first half, but the other two would have had a game on the Saturday so that'll be why they didn't play.

Bo'ness play at home tonight and from what I can see Walker's started every game for them.

[Jackie Myles]

1 hour ago, Bairnardo said:

Seems like by far and away the most likely scenario to me.

Certainly the simplest that requires no conspiratorial speculation to back it up.

Well it definitely has hee haw to do with that in this case.

 

[Jackie Myles]

1 hour ago, Zbairn said:

Playing devil's advocate here..... but if you have one or two directors forming a clique and getting their mates involved (who are not Directors), it might just p**s off the others who have been voted on by the FSS.  Then you have a hostile atmosphere that descends into chaos !

We have just come out from that scenario with previous BoD's.... let's hope we are not moving back in that direction !

 

I think you've got it spot on mate unfortunately.

[FalkirkBairn2021]

We're missing some good NEDs (Slamannan boys -stand down). 

No idea what's happened with Doug Moodie but AL-FFC's attempt to go all Comical Ali on it is bizarre. 

There quite clearly is something to see  and it's important it is nipped in the bud now before the new board becomes too settled. 

Could be we are thanking Doug as a whistle-blower in a few weeks time. Better resigning than carrying on in a situation you aren't comfortable with. Let's see what explanations are forthcoming.

NEDs keep a board honest, and coach the less experienced members. We could do with a couple of really experienced ones from big companies. Not easy to get of course for a small company like FFC.

[Reggie Perrin]

About time that a Chairman was elected as well.

[Bairn winner]

I think the supporters deserve a truthful explanation regarding the reason for the resignation, after what we have been through with previous boards trust is paramount on the club going forward.

[AL-FFC]

3 hours ago, FalkirkBairn2021 said:

We're missing some good NEDs (Slamannan boys -stand down). 

No idea what's happened with Doug Moodie but AL-FFC's attempt to go all Comical Ali on it is bizarre. 

There quite clearly is something to see  and it's important it is nipped in the bud now before the new board becomes too settled. 

Could be we are thanking Doug as a whistle-blower in a few weeks time. Better resigning than carrying on in a situation you aren't comfortable with. Let's see what explanations are forthcoming.

NEDs keep a board honest, and coach the less experienced members. We could do with a couple of really experienced ones from big companies. Not easy to get of course for a small company like FFC.

Not gone comical Ali I'm just looking at a different perspective, like I say if someone resigns from your work is there an alterior motive ? 

There might be a perfectly simple reason he stepped down but everyone seems tp wan t to go with the conspiracy theory on it

Edited August 3, 2022 by AL-FFC

[Bigbri Bairn]

Not gone comical Ali I'm just looking at a different perspective, like I say if someone resigns from your work is there an alterior motif ? 
There might be a perfectly simple reason he stepped down but everyone seems tp wan t to go with the conspiracy theory on it

people love a bit of intrigue and conspiracy

[Guest Caractacus Potts]

1 hour ago, FalkirkBairn2021 said:

We're missing some good NEDs (Slamannan boys -stand down). 

No idea what's happened with Doug Moodie but AL-FFC's attempt to go all Comical Ali on it is bizarre. 

There quite clearly is something to see  and it's important it is nipped in the bud now before the new board becomes too settled. 

Could be we are thanking Doug as a whistle-blower in a few weeks time. Better resigning than carrying on in a situation you aren't comfortable with. Let's see what explanations are forthcoming.

NEDs keep a board honest, and coach the less experienced members. We could do with a couple of really experienced ones from big companies. Not easy to get of course for a small company like FFC.

Totally agree. 

Read the Facebook page and someone was having a go at Doug for liking a post saying it’s concerning and not what they want to see in a director. If Doug has felt hard done by then he’s every right to like whatever he wants and under no obligation to state what happened. If he did he’d no doubt be slaughtered by the same people.

It takes a lot for people to come out and have a go against an establishment, such as the club. I remember it here when a fan was abused by a director and made it known. If people are acting inappropriately then more power to those for letting it known or at least indicating not all is well. 

For everyone saying we all need to pull together too, you can’t just expect people to follow if they’ve been treated unfairly and you can’t just expect fans to buy in if they don’t like what they’re seeing. Just like we don’t want poor manager after poor manager it’s the same with the board. They are the ones who make the important decisions. If all is not well then they have to sort it out as soon as possible. 

At least a chairman is responsible and most importantly accountable  for the way the club is run. Without a chairman it can all be hidden away and no one is the wiser as to who is making good or bad decisions. 

Ofcourse there could be other reasons Doug left but reading between the lines it doesn’t sound great and with the other resignations or people leaving their jobs, it doesn’t look good. 

As for the hours, it was said Doug was working hard behind the scenes before he was appointed on the board. He was lauded as much by the club when appointed so any suggestion that he wasn’t up to it seems way off the mark. 

Hopefully the FSS can provide more detail and stick up for Doug if he was poorly treated as we don’t want that happening to any other rep. 

[Springfield]

1 hour ago, Reggie Perrin said:

About time that a Chairman was elected as well.

Well said, so fcked up hearing that the position should be Chairperson in this woke world.

[Springfield]

FSS DIRECTOR

FSS members would have been disappointed to see the news that Doug Moodie had stood down from the Falkirk board of directors earlier this week. Doug was elected to the board by FSS members March this year, having served previously as a volunteer helping rebuild the club behind the scenes. Since his appointment as director, Doug did a great deal of good work upgrading the finance systems and operations, delivering many other club projects as shared across the board/club volunteers, as well as recently taking on responsibility for data compliance. Doug regularly attended FSS committee meetings alongside Nigel, answering questions frankly and keeping us informed. He also participated enthusiastically in the numerous fans’ events organised by FSS as well as the club’s information evenings earlier in the season.  Doug had also taken on Presidency of The Stirlingshire FA with a view to re-invigorating the tournament across a wider level of participation including youth, womens’ and other groups. There is bound to be speculation about the resignation of a board member. Out of respect to Doug and to the board, we don’t want to add to that speculation as everyone is working so hard to bring success back to the club, not least all our members who contribute in many different ways. We do however owe our members as much transparency as possible. Doug has told us to pass on his thanks to FSS members for their support, encouragement and friendship, and would like us to record his warmest thanks for all the various messages of support and thanks he has received the past few days since the announcement was made. He will continue to be a staunch supporter of the club and of FSS’s aims, and looks forward to potentially playing a more active role in FSS moving forward. His experiences and insights into how our club can be successful again will be taken on board by FSS.  Doug looks forward to seeing many of you in the stands this season at games home and away, and is always open for a natter on all matters football related as we get behind John, Paul and the team this season. We hope to have a meeting with the Board soon where we can discuss any lessons we can all learn from the first 6 months of fan involvement. It’s clear that we need to think carefully about how our model can succeed. We are however determined to ensure fans’ retain an effective voice at the heart of the club, achieved via democratic elections. We will seek a replacement fans’ director for Doug as soon as possible.