RC55 FFC Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: I’m also sure that, like many clubs including us, Hamilton will suffer badly with the amount of bigots and glory hunters living in Scotland. Our office is in High Blantyre & I worked there for a number of years before COVID. Interacted with a number of football fans but not once did I meet an Accies fan sadly, not a proper one anyway. Just the odd Rangers fan with a soft spot. Old Firm, Motherwell, Hearts & weirdly another Bairns fan as well as me in that office but no Accies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea and Busquets Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Does anyone know if Saturday’s game is pay at the gate? Or do you need to buy a ticket? Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tea and Busquets said: Does anyone know if Saturday’s game is pay at the gate? Or do you need to buy a ticket? Thanks. Would be shocked if their is no PATG on the day tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Suffering Bairn Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, FuzzyBear said: We only sold 320 last season. We are never going to sell many but that figure will go up a fair bit when/if there is confirmation of Colin McGowan leaving. I am genuinely gobsmaked by Hamilton only having 300 odd season ticket holders. Not making a dig at them, I just find it difficult to understand how any full-time professional football team can survive with so few. I understand that geographically Hamilton lose most of their potential fans to the old firm but where is the money coming from for even basic club operations? If Falkirk had so few season ticket holders we would be playing in the South of Scotland league by now. Gobsmacked. Edited July 11, 2023 by Long Suffering Bairn mistake 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Long Suffering Bairn said: I am genuinely gobsmaked by Hamilton only having 300 odd season ticket holders. Not making a dig at them, I just find it difficult to understand how any full-time professional football team can survive with so few. I understand that geographically Hamilton lose most of their potential fans to the old firm but where is the money coming from for even basic club operations? If Falkirk had so few season ticket holders we would be playing in the South of Scotland league by now. Gobsmacked. You do wonder how they can finance full time football in this league on that number. Do we not have any fans that play the trumpet or something like that. I've heard them leading the crowd at various sports events starting the songs and it's excellent. Edited July 11, 2023 by Shodwall cat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: You do wonder how they can finance full time football in this league on that number. Do we not have any fans that play the trumpet or something like that. I've heard them leading the crowd at various sports events starting the songs and it's excellent. Like this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proudtobeabairn Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 108 adult tickets, 87 over 65s and 72 under 18s so more than half of those sold won't even be full price. Unless there's private investment, there must be a chunky operating loss there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB_Bino Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 46 minutes ago, Long Suffering Bairn said: I am genuinely gobsmaked by Hamilton only having 300 odd season ticket holders. Not making a dig at them, I just find it difficult to understand how any full-time professional football team can survive with so few. I understand that geographically Hamilton lose most of their potential fans to the old firm but where is the money coming from for even basic club operations? If Falkirk had so few season ticket holders we would be playing in the South of Scotland league by now. Gobsmacked. I thought exactly the same. A rough scan of our West Stand and I would hazard a guess of that being around about our season ticket numbers last season and we can not fund Full Time football on that income. 12 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: Like this? Has to be one of my all time favourite music videos.......but I've never quite known why...I better keep watching it until I can work it out! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyBear Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, Proudtobeabairn said: 108 adult tickets, 87 over 65s and 72 under 18s so more than half of those sold won't even be full price. Unless there's private investment, there must be a chunky operating loss there. Accies just made £450k selling Forsyth to Norwich and McDonald to Leeds. One will be heading to Brighton soon so that will be another £250k and still rumours of Fulton leaving so that should keep us Ok this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, FuzzyBear said: Accies just made £450k selling Forsyth to Norwich and McDonald to Leeds. One will be heading to Brighton soon so that will be another £250k and still rumours of Fulton leaving so that should keep us Ok this season. Do you boys not own your ground and make decent money renting it out for weddings and stuff? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Long Suffering Bairn said: I am genuinely gobsmaked by Hamilton only having 300 odd season ticket holders. Not making a dig at them, I just find it difficult to understand how any full-time professional football team can survive with so few. I understand that geographically Hamilton lose most of their potential fans to the old firm but where is the money coming from for even basic club operations? If Falkirk had so few season ticket holders we would be playing in the South of Scotland league by now. Gobsmacked. 53 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: You do wonder how they can finance full time football in this league on that number. I doubt we'll have an awful lot more. Depends what you count. We had about 1,000 child season tickets last season but those were free so people just took them, rarely more than 200 actually turned up and given they were free it's frankly irrelevant. They aren't free this season, they are £18 (£1 a game) so they'll cascade down to something under 400 I imagine. We give all the people who enter our Shirt Sponsorship draw a season ticket too which accounts for another 160 or so. In terms of adults and concessions actually paying for a tickets we'll be 300 - 400 I imagine. At the end of the day of course season ticket numbers are comparatively irrelevant. What's relevant is the gate receipts. If two clubs have the same average gate and one has 500 season ticket holders and the other 1,000 of them the one with less season ticket holders will have bigger gate receipts. Not that I'm suggesting either us or Hamilton will have bigger gate receipts, we clearly will be dwarfed, but there is a tendency at some clubs to fixate on season ticket numbers as if it's all that matters. Clubs like Falkirk, Dunfermline, Partick and Raith offer significantly bigger discounts on season tickets than we do (no idea about Hamilton) and tend to focus much more on the sales of them. We've never, even when we had decent gates, sold a particularly high percentage of season tickets. The only years we sold loads were the ones we shared a division with Rangers and Hearts and it was the only way to be sure of getting a seat. At the end of the day you survive by cutting cloth accordingly, and by maximising other revenue streams where possible. And relying enormously on the goodwill of Directors businesses, other local businesses and sponsors and volunteers. Edited July 11, 2023 by Skyline Drifter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyBear Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, ShaggerG said: Do you boys not own your ground and make decent money renting it out for weddings and stuff? Nope Colin McGowan owns the stadium. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Reggie Perrin said: Hamilton have sold 279 season tickets! You guys make me chuckle. Don't ever change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: You guys make me chuckle. Don't ever change. It really wasn’t a crowd w**k, it was an expression of astonishment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Shodwall cat said: You do wonder how they can finance full time football in this league on that number. Do we not have any fans that play the trumpet or something like that. I've heard them leading the crowd at various sports events starting the songs and it's excellent. They make a fortune from hiring out their stadium. In fact in the past it I was told it out stripped the money we bring in from ST’s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Reggie Perrin said: It really wasn’t a crowd w**k, it was an expression of astonishment. It's always a crowd w**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Just now, Monkey Tennis said: It's always a crowd w**k. Aye fine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgenarse Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Jack Harness incoming on season long loan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 It's not like we just sell season tickets though. From the Premiership to Championship to League 1 something that has always remained consistent is that we have around 1k walk-up home fans. Even if Hamilton had that (they dont) you really have to wonder how on earth they can sustain full time football at those levels 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Shodwall cat said: Will standing at the front not cause issues for anyone sitting behind them? Acoustically are you not better at the back aswell? Sound in theory should reverberate with the stand rather than escape into the ether. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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