Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!

[Rusty 218]

Only an Excuse might actually be decent for the first time in years with all these events.

True - the biggest winner out of all this could be Jonathan Watson! Imagine the DVD Box Sets he'll be able to shift! I'm getting my order in early with Amazon!

[huckleberry]

The problem SEVCO have even if they were "Rangers men" is that D&P might have had a conflict of interest and shouldnt have been running the administration. A couple of days ago Lord Hodge asked for a written report "clarifying" their position prior to being appointed. If its deemed by the Law that there was a conflict of interest then Sevco might not own any assets. That would defo throw a spanner in the works.

[huckleberry]

Also remember D&Ps were appointed by the court so if there was a known conflict of interest by them and they never informed the judge then someone is going to be held accountable and it aint gonna be the judge.

[Granny Danger]

I sometimes feel like this.

but then I remember this, and my sympathy turns unsolicited laughter. This then turns into an urge to wind up some Rangers fans on facebook.

May be that I'm bi-polar.

I hate being bi-polar, it's brilliant.

[Newbornbairn]

Been out golfing tonight... a quick update, anyone?

Well, let's see. First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it.

[aldo_j]

Also remember D&Ps were appointed by the court so if there was a known conflict of interest by them and they never informed the judge then someone is going to be held accountable and it aint gonna be the judge.

You sure they were appointed by the courts? I thought Whyte appointed them before another administrator was appointed by the courts.

[The DA]

http://www.express.c...ey-s-trade-war/

Well said, Pressley. A brave man. We've been saying the same since this proposal was first mooted but sometimes it just takes 1 person in a position of influence to get these things out in the open and then the others follow suit.

[The DA]

Watch out diddy teams because the sevco 5088 supporters are now scouting your best talent as if they'll sign for the newco in a nanosecond because they are ? fcuk all really ! but they think they would be able to snatch even a few players from Kilmarnock PMSL to play in the 3rd if they even get back into any league delusional or what FFS.

http://forum.rangers...howtopic=223985

What's a "die in the wool rangers fan"? I can just about imagine a "die in the wool Dons fan" - that's sorta like snuffing it on the job for them.

[Florentine_Pogen]

If this thread were a play it would be Waiting for Godot.

"Waiting for a Kindle" mair like.

At two thousand odd pages, it would weigh a bit.................

[thejailender]

The scotsman running this story today

Scotsman Link

Rangers newco: 1964 bid to eject minnows could come back to haunt club

IRONY will be at the forefront of the minds of certain members of the Scottish Football League with long memories when they vote on the future of ‘The Rangers’.

Five clubs which will be involved in determining which division the Ibrox club will play in next season – Albion Rovers, Berwick Rangers, Brechin City, Stenhousemuir and Stranraer – may think back 48 years when the boot was on the other foot.

In 1964, this gang of five survived an attempt to oust them from senior football in a move led by Rangers.

The Glasgow giants wanted to reduce the number of clubs in the then top two divisions from 37 to 32 and proposed that the minnows should drop out.

Rangers proposed that the five clubs with the smallest gate receipts should be kicked out and were at the vanguard of moves to make it happen, including sending out correspondence to the other member clubs and deliberately excluding the targeted clubs.

Amid much legal wrangling, the smaller clubs – supported by Celtic and their chairman Robert Kelly – survived the move. SFL Operations Director David Thomson recalled: “The book that was launched to mark the centenary of the SFL in 1990 records what happened. The five clubs were in danger of being voted out. However, Stenhousemuir committee member Robert Turpey, who was also a lawyer, and strongly supported by the other clubs, was successful in raising an interim interdict on their behalf.”

The matter was eventually resolved out of court in November 1964 amid promises that the clubs would remain in the SFL and any new league that was formed. Thomson added: “That decision probably marks the start of a move to three professional leagues that started a decade later when the Premier League along with Divisions 1 and 2 were created.”

However, Rangers’ role in the wrangle caused a lot of anger at the time, especially in Stranraer. Present-day committee member Shaun Niven said: “I know that a lot of people in the town were unhappy with what had gone on. Stranraer are Scotland’s third oldest team as we were formed in 1870 after just Queen’s Park and Kilmarnock. We waited over 80 years to be admitted to the old-style Division Two and to be told after ten years that we were not wanted caused a lot of resentment. The clubs that had been targeted rallied round to win their case and remain in the SFL to this day.”

Looking at Rangers’ present predicament, Niven added: “This situation is another of the great ironies that football throws up. We could now determine whether Rangers get into the SFL and what division they come into after they tried to throw us out all those years ago.

“This whole situation is full of issues going full circle as it has probably accelerated the amalgamation of the SPL and the SFL 15 years after they were spilt apart by SPL sides led by Rangers and Celtic. Now one league body is seen as the way forward.”

Berwick, of course, took a measure of revenge on the park less than two years later when they defeated Rangers 1-0 in a Scottish Cup tie, and now the fate of the club that wanted to expel them and four others could sit in their collective hands.

If it comes to a vote at the SFL, Stranraer would have to balance the prospect of placing Rangers in the First Division for the good of the game overall against their own promotion to the Second Division, as they were the losing play-off side last month and weigh up the benefit of eight local derbies against Queen of the South and Ayr United to an overall package that benefits the SFL overall.

Niven added, “Nothing will be pre-judged based on what happened nearly 50 years ago. If we have to make a decision we will do that based on what is best for Stranraer FC and Scottish football overall.”

[The DA]

Every so often, I get this wee thought raising it's head and saying "There won't be a Rangers playing in the SPL next season". Just think how ginormous that fact is!!

[The DA]

From RM:

I think we may well end up in the courts showing how biased the SFA have been and they making of rules to punish us more than any team in admin,surely Rangers have collected all the comments, leaks from meetings and those at sfa who have failed a member club.

C'mon England take pity on our plight and invite us to the lower leagues in the name of sporting integrity.

Poor deluded b@stards.

[Florentine_Pogen]

The fact that the MSM are even running that story about events in 1964 shows you how much the tectonic plates have shifted in 2 months.

P.S. Any sign of Chick ?

Edited June 26, 2012 by Florentine_Pogen

[aka]

From RM:

Poor deluded b@stards.

Quite agree. I cannot go to these hen sites, I cannot face them. For some reason, even after all that has happened with fans of all other clubs joining together, this WATP attitude from the Ibrox masses angers me more than ever, which is saying something.

As I expect is the case with so many others, at the start of this whole adventure I had a feeling of resignation about the whole thing, that there would be usual Scottish stitch-up and 'normal service would be resumed', but with the faint hope that at least the authorities would follow their own rules. I have since moved on to wanting them expelled from the SPL and, very soon after that, to wanting them to just disappear from the Scottish game altogether - all because of what they have done and the attitude of their fans.

This whole idea that rules do not apply to them, that we should allow them back and be thankful that they spit their bile and piss on us for our benefit is beyond me. As is the myth that they bring money and so many benefits to the the Scottish game. They don't. The only money they bring to the Scottish game goes (or rather, went) to RFC. Crumbs from the master's table, my arse.

The fans must pressure the SFL and its clubs to keep them out. I suspect that should Spartans, or Cove or whoever apply for the extra spot they would become everyone's favourite second team.

Of course, with a little luck, Sevco may just disappear of the face of the earth.

Anyway, now that I have my morning rant out the way, I'll finish my toast and catch that bus.

[TheTaxMan]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/9352507/Rapid-Vienna-report-Rangers-to-Fifa-over-Nikica-Jelavic-debt.html

[Drooper]

Well said, Pressley. A brave man....then the others follow suit.

And brown shoes, presumably?

[pozbaird]

You know something all this talk of "don't punish the fans" its not the clubs fault etc etc. the way the fans have reacted right the way through this saga could be looked back on as a bigger PR dissaster than anything else. barely a shred of humility and arrogance and agression by the bucket load.

What surprised me most about the Rangers fans during all of this was their complete inability to grasp the severity of the situation and get together, get organised, project a united front. I'm no expert on the factions within the Rangers support, but pre-Feb 14, I was aware of the names 'Blue Order', 'Union Bears', and there was always some guy on the telly, an older guy, who was some sort of spokesman for the official Rangers supporters clubs. Following administration on Feb 14, I don't think I saw this older guy on the telly at all. There was that fat baldy chunt - who all Rangers fans seemed to hate too, and the younger guy with a neat line in leather jackets and regular appearances on the Scotland Tonight sofa. He was on the telly again last night, saying that by canvassing their own supporters views, clubs like Dundee United and Aberdeen simply kicked Rangers when they were down. To think that this arrogant wee chunt is choking into his cornflakes this morning pleases me greatly.

Then of course we had the RFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF and their wonderful roll-up bannerstand. More typo' errors and mistakes in one 850mm x 2236mm graphic than I managed in a lifetime. Sandy Jardine seemed to spend a fair bit of time with the typo' error boys. Cannot believe they managed to typeset S-a-n-d-y J-a-r-d-i-n-e, and not the correct useage; U-t-t-e-r C-u-n-t. Talk about a typo' error.

So, these Blue Order, Union Bears, supporters clubs, fat baldy guys, older guy, and younger but seriously deluded guy..... plus the myriad of worldwide and local Rangers supporters clubs, bus convenors, blah, blah de blah.... where were they? Why weren't they organised into one group, speaking with one voice - and putting their triumphalist superiority complex WATP bullshit on hold? Us diddies recognised right away that their club was in a fight for its very survival - Rangers fans appeared to think they were in a fight to retain Champions League group stage qualification, and their 'rightful' position of shitting on the Sellik.

Ach, not my concern. Fcuk um'.

[BigRubberFist]

08:24 and I'm out of greenies already.

Cheers folks.

[Spain]

What surprised me most about the Rangers fans during all of this was their complete inability to grasp the severity of the situation and get together, get organised, project a united front. I'm no expert on the factions within the Rangers support, but pre-Feb 14, I was aware of the names 'Blue Order', 'Union Bears', and there was always some guy on the telly, an older guy, who was some sort of spokesman for the official Rangers supporters clubs. Following administration on Feb 14, I don't think I saw this older guy on the telly at all. There was that fat baldy chunt - who all Rangers fans seemed to hate too, and the younger guy with a neat line in leather jackets and regular appearances on the Scotland Tonight sofa. He was on the telly again last night, saying that by canvassing their own supporters views, clubs like Dundee United and Aberdeen simply kicked Rangers when they were down. To think that this arrogant wee chunt is choking into his cornflakes this morning pleases me greatly.

Then of course we had the RFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF and their wonderful roll-up bannerstand. More typo' errors and mistakes in one 850mm x 2236mm graphic than I managed in a lifetime. Sandy Jardine seemed to spend a fair bit of time with the typo' error boys. Cannot believe they managed to typeset S-a-n-d-y J-a-r-d-i-n-e, and not the correct useage; U-t-t-e-r C-u-n-t. Talk about a typo' error.

So, these Blue Order, Union Bears, supporters clubs, fat baldy guys, older guy, and younger but seriously deluded guy..... plus the myriad of worldwide and local Rangers supporters clubs, bus convenors, blah, blah de blah.... where were they? Why weren't they organised into one group, speaking with one voice - and putting their triumphalist superiority complex WATP bullshit on hold? Us diddies recognised right away that their club was in a fight for its very survival - Rangers fans appeared to think they were in a fight to retain Champions League group stage qualification, and their 'rightful' position of shitting on the Sellik.

Ach, not my concern. Fcuk um'.

The problem for them in a way is that they were all looking to the media (Daily Record etc) for their information and to take a lead, and they've been let down by them just as badly as the rest of us. I hate to trod over the same ground again as last night, but the sooner Traynor, Jackson, Young etc are all out of mainstream media, the better.

[stonedsailor]

Are they dead yet?