Ross. Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Some guy tries to analyse the referendum outcome by studying the flow of 'big data'.... make of it what you will. http://blog.majesticseo.com/research/scottish-election-poll/ Will be interesting to see how it pans out when compared to this after the event. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Even my No voting mates (not many of them now) admit they media have been one sided, especially in the last fortnight. The media wont be the reason Yes lose. Not enough people being interested in Yes will be the reason Yes loses. Yes have enjoyed massive advantages in this referendum. the ability from the start to claim the "positive" side of the issue (how much psychologically easier is it to sell and campaign on "Yes let's do it" than "No - I'd rather not") and the ability to promise a completely undelivered set of "facts" about a new Scotland they absolutely don't have to cost. Yet, even with these massive advantages Yes are losing. That says a lot about the lack of popularity for secession. Edited September 12, 2014 by H_B -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The media wont be the reason Yes lose. Not enough people being interested in Yes will be the reason Yes loses. Yes have enjoyed massive advantages in this referendum. the ability from the start to claim the "positive" side of the issue (how much psychologically easier is it to sell and campaign on "Yes let's do it" than "No - I'd rather not") and the ability to promise a completely undelivered set of "facts" about a new Scotland they absolutely don't have to cost. Yet, even with these massive advantages Yes are losing. That says a lot about the lack of popularity for secession. The best effort yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 On the other hand Yes have to answer the questions of "uncertainty" the whole time whilst any question of uncertainty surrounding a No vote has been completely ignored by the rabid media. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 If you say so, HB. I'm certainly not going to try and convince you otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rider Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The media wont be the reason Yes lose. Not enough people being interested in Yes will be the reason Yes loses. Yes have enjoyed massive advantages in this referendum. the ability from the start to claim the "positive" side of the issue (how much psychologically easier is it to sell and campaign on "Yes let's do it" than "No - I'd rather not") and the ability to promise a completely undelivered set of "facts" about a new Scotland they absolutely don't have to cost. Yet, even with these massive advantages Yes are losing. That says a lot about the lack of popularity for secession. Don't forget to mention the massive advantages of the state broadcaster and MSM fully backing the Yes campaign..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The media wont be the reason Yes lose. Not enough people being interested in Yes will be the reason Yes loses. Yes have enjoyed massive advantages in this referendum. the ability from the start to claim the "positive" side of the issue (how much psychologically easier is it to sell and campaign on "Yes let's do it" than "No - I'd rather not") and the ability to promise a completely undelivered set of "facts" about a new Scotland they absolutely don't have to cost. Yet, even with these massive advantages Yes are losing. That says a lot about the lack of popularity for secession. And No have all three major 'national' parties and their support networks, a media machine that largely favours the status quo and 300 years of historical inertia. These are all 'massive' advantages as well. ... and no one is saying the media is the reason yes will lose, the stories of this week were all on the face of it 'newsworthy' even if I personally found the reporting style sensationalist and simplistic (but that goes for most reporting). Fact is though that having thrown everything from the IMF and banks moving to increased food prices, and the Yes vote didn't melt away as clearly was hoped for. It's still too close to call, and all the polls have basically converged to a statistical tie, with yes ahving gained about 20 points over the last couple of years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I was in Dortmund for match at weekend. Needless to say most were Yes. However I did come across 2 individuals that were No. However both said that although they were No... they were not going to vote. Ie they didnt agree but would not vote against country.. got me thinking... yes supporters are more likely to vote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The media wont be the reason Yes lose. Not enough people being interested in Yes will be the reason Yes loses. Yes have enjoyed massive advantages in this referendum. the ability from the start to claim the "positive" side of the issue (how much psychologically easier is it to sell and campaign on "Yes let's do it" than "No - I'd rather not") and the ability to promise a completely undelivered set of "facts" about a new Scotland they absolutely don't have to cost. Yet, even with these massive advantages Yes are losing. That says a lot about the lack of popularity for secession. Not the brightest bulb in the pack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 42 No 40 Yes 17 DK Surprised at the high amount of DK's. I'm even more surprised that the figures don't add up to 100%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'm even more surprised that the figures don't add up to 100%. rounding errors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Absolutely fantastic stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The media wont be the reason Yes lose. Not enough people being interested in Yes will be the reason Yes loses. Yes have enjoyed massive advantages in this referendum. the ability from the start to claim the "positive" side of the issue (how much psychologically easier is it to sell and campaign on "Yes let's do it" than "No - I'd rather not") and the ability to promise a completely undelivered set of "facts" about a new Scotland they absolutely don't have to cost. Yet, even with these massive advantages Yes are losing. That says a lot about the lack of popularity for secession. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Not sure if serious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 You've got to hand it to H_B, he's a wee trier. On the rare occasions he shows up these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The media wont be the reason Yes lose. Not enough people being interested in Yes will be the reason Yes loses. Yes have enjoyed massive advantages in this referendum. the ability from the start to claim the "positive" side of the issue (how much psychologically easier is it to sell and campaign on "Yes let's do it" than "No - I'd rather not") and the ability to promise a completely undelivered set of "facts" about a new Scotland they absolutely don't have to cost. Yet, even with these massive advantages Yes are losing. That says a lot about the lack of popularity for secession. At least 40% of the country wants wants independence with perhaps a swing vote of about 10 - 15% that could go either way. Talking about "a lack of popularity" just makes you look foolish. Anyone can see the historical wave that is heading towards Scottish independence; the referendum of '79 that was won but failed on a technicality, the overwhelming vote for a Scottish parliament under Blair, the rise of the SNP as a major political force that governs under a system custom designed to keep them out, and now a referendum on independence that, with a week to go, could go either way. At the very least Scotland will gain further powers from Westminister further adding to the momentum of, as you call it, succession. If there is a minority in Scotland it's clearly hardcore no voters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 #AlexSalmondissomoney 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I was in Dortmund for match at weekend. Needless to say most were Yes. However I did come across 2 individuals that were No. However both said that although they were No... they were not going to vote. Ie they didnt agree but would not vote against country.. got me thinking... yes supporters are more likely to vote Again, I can't believe all these people have registered to vote are doing it to maintain the status quo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The media wont be the reason Yes lose. Not enough people being interested in Yes will be the reason Yes loses. Yes have enjoyed massive advantages in this referendum. the ability from the start to claim the "positive" side of the issue (how much psychologically easier is it to sell and campaign on "Yes let's do it" than "No - I'd rather not") and the ability to promise a completely undelivered set of "facts" about a new Scotland they absolutely don't have to cost. Yet, even with these massive advantages Yes are losing. That says a lot about the lack of popularity for secession. It's sitting at 49% yes now you cretinous troll! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Sally encourages women to say 'YES'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Another interesting link: http://wearedando.com/google-trends-predicting-yes-vote-scottish-referendum/#MajesticSEO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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