Yet another US shooting

[Hillonearth]

[Cerberus]

I wish someone would shoot this thread.

[TheProgressiveLiberal]

1 hour ago, The OP said:

Especially when you then keep that 'culture' in its place with a combination of overt and covert prejudice and then blame them for society's ills.

Black Americans were making consistent progress until their family collapsed with the introduction of the welfare state in the 60s. Then the lines started to go the other way on racial inequality. A new study showed that blacks households are likely to own 60-80% less wealth by 2024 than they did in the early 80s, and median black household wealth is on pace to hit $0 by 2053. The welfare state allowed their family structure to return to a pre-freedom structure.  

 

[TheProgressiveLiberal]

57 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

I doubt that line would've got in the song.

This is the better song about WV.

 

[The OP]

10 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said:

Black Americans were making consistent progress until their family collapsed with the introduction of the welfare state in the 60s. Then the lines started to go the other way on racial inequality. A new study showed that blacks households are likely to own 60-80% less wealth by 2024 than they did in the early 80s, and median black household wealth is on pace to hit $0 by 2053. The welfare state allowed their family structure to return to a pre-freedom structure.  

 

As the age of Miss America has increased so has the rate of murders using steam, hot vapours and hot objects. As the age of Miss America decreases so does the same murder rate. I put this down to the decrease in respect for bus drivers.

Edited October 3, 2017 by The OP

[TheProgressiveLiberal]

2 minutes ago, The OP said:

As the age of Miss America has increased so has the rate of murders using steam, hot vapours and hot objects. As the age of Miss America decreases so does the same murder rate. I put this down to the decrease in respect for bus drivers.

So you deny that there's a link between female headed households, and the likelihood that their sons will end up as violent criminals?

[The OP]

2 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said:

So you deny that there's a link between female headed households, and the likelihood that their sons will end up as violent criminals?

Dunno, are we talking black female heads, Muslim female heads or Scottish female heads here? 

[TheProgressiveLiberal]

3 minutes ago, The OP said:

Dunno, are we talking black female heads, Muslim female heads or Scottish female heads here? 

All.  I'd assume how much trouble an increase in female headed households will cause for the mall offspring, and society as a whole, probably varies based on race / culture, even if you hold class constant. However I can't say it's something I've looked into.  

[The OP]

1 minute ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said:

All.  I'd assume how much trouble an increase in female headed households will cause for the mall offspring, and society as a whole, probably varies based on race / culture, even if you hold class constant. However I can't say it's something I've looked into.  

So in your opinion if we plot race/culture against total numbers of mall offspring versus number of guns per 107 female blacks do the figures make any sense?

[NotThePars]

Culturalist narratives are just old fashioned racism hidden behind some creative language.

[Silvio Tattiescone]

Looks like the collective wisdom of P&B has decided this is all down to stupid foreigners.

[Cerberus]

The British immigrationdepartment is missing a trick here.
With all the Europeans going home because of Brexit they could take advantage of disgruntled Americans looking to leave the US with a carefully aimed marketing campaign.

Come to Britain.
The weather is shite, we're in a horrific period of austerity that has been strangling people for years, the pound is tanking and we all voted for Brexit because of a bus but you definitely won't get shot by a white guy.

[Fide]

5 hours ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said:

This is the better song about WV.

 

I misread that initially as RIP Bernie Mac.

I miss him.

[Sergeant Wilson]

6 hours ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said:

This is the better song about WV.

 

I agree, reference to Hasil Adkins in the video as well, can't be bad.

[Jacksgranda]

9 hours ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said:

Black immigrants to America are not violent at nearly the rate as the descendants of slaves. They are also way more successful. A culture spending 400 years enslaved is going to create problems.

You make that read as if they chose to be enslaved.

[TheProgressiveLiberal]

56 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

You make that read as if they chose to be enslaved.

That's a strange way to read the comment.

My overall argument is that the reason for America's extreme murder rate when compared to other Western countries is our unique history among those countries as a slave owning society, not our gun laws. I don't think a change in gun laws, especially considering the amount of guns in circulation, will have a very big effect on gun violence rates. The solution lies in improving black culture. Any gun laws need to be targeted at actual problems. We had an assault weapons ban for 10 years between 1994 and 2004. The government determined that it didn't save any lives, or if it did the amount was too low to measure.  So there was no point in stopping people from owning those specific guns. What has been shown to work is stop and frisk in high crime areas, and strict sentences for violent people caught carrying illegally. For some reason Democrats support the first, but oppose the second.

And this specific guy would have killed a bunch of people no matter what the laws were. He was a millionaire, intelligent, capable of clear planning, and not on any law enforcement radar. If a guy like that wants to kill people, he's most likely going to figure out a way.

 

[TheProgressiveLiberal]

Interesting stuff coming out about the girlfriend from the Philippines. She had two different Social Security numbers and was married to two men at the same time. She also used addresses in multiple states at the same time. Her different Social Security numbers are tied to different ages.

[TheProgressiveLiberal]

Just learned today that you could buy machine guns out of catalogs before they were banned in the 1930s. 

 

[Benjamin_Nevis]

These fuckwits on BBC2 just now [emoji38]

Actually using the "why aren't cars banned" argument [emoji38]

[Jacksgranda]

1 hour ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said:

That's a strange way to read the comment.

My overall argument is that the reason for America's extreme murder rate when compared to other Western countries is our unique history among those countries as a slave owning society, not our gun laws. I don't think a change in gun laws, especially considering the amount of guns in circulation, will have a very big effect on gun violence rates. The solution lies in improving black culture. Any gun laws need to be targeted at actual problems. We had an assault weapons ban for 10 years between 1994 and 2004. The government determined that it didn't save any lives, or if it did the amount was too low to measure.  So there was no point in stopping people from owning those specific guns. What has been shown to work is stop and frisk in high crime areas, and strict sentences for violent people caught carrying illegally. For some reason Democrats support the first, but oppose the second.

And this specific guy would have killed a bunch of people no matter what the laws were. He was a millionaire, intelligent, capable of clear planning, and not on any law enforcement radar. If a guy like that wants to kill people, he's most likely going to figure out a way.

 

I would have written - "A culture that was enslaved for 400 years", semantics , perhaps. Probably is me, nobody else has commented on it!