Hymlick Manouvre Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Antlion said: The SNP government doesn’t want independence from the EU. That’s the policy of the racist Prime Minister and his xenophobic government. Hit the nail on the head there, the SNP need a bigger state to make the decisions for them and to bankroll the country because they can't manage it themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymlick Manouvre Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 It's pretty obvious to anyone looking in that isn't being blinded by nationalism and hatred for tory's that Scotland isn't the success story that the SNP would like everyone to believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rider Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Hymlick Manouvre said: It's pretty obvious to anyone looking in that isn't being blinded by nationalism and hatred for tory's that Scotland isn't the success story that the SNP would like everyone to believe. You mean the Scotland that’s been part of the United Kingdom for a few hundred years? That Scotland? Maybe you are seeing the light. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymlick Manouvre Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Because at this moment Scotlands finances are horrendous, very little income, lots of outgoings. No money from tourism, very little income from industry and farming, renewables are owned by foreign companies likewise oil and gas. Do you believe that Scotland could handle the furlough scheme if independent to the same extent that the UK government is, knowing that they can just get the B of E to pump money into the economy. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Hymlick Manouvre said: Because at this moment Scotlands finances are horrendous, very little income, lots of outgoings. No money from tourism, very little income from industry and farming, renewables are owned by foreign companies likewise oil and gas. Do you believe that Scotland could handle the furlough scheme if independent to the same extent that the UK government is, knowing that they can just get the B of E to pump money into the economy. We'd struggle on ok with our 10% of the Bank of England. You worry too much. How much investment and international confidence would there be in a confident independent Scotland at the heart of the EU rather than England hovering in the Atlantic Ocean with Congress blocking trade deals unless they bankrupt their farmers, sell them the NHS and with a WTO torn to shreds? Edited June 4, 2020 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Still struggling to see how you're measuring this. Like were the SNP doing fine pre-covid? What studies models of an independent country were you using to decide either way?£13.4 billion? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 £13.4 billion? Was it no 12.6 ? Even the yes voters are telling people the dreaded hole is bigger than it is On a more serious note. Anyone that thinks an Indy Scotland can't cover 10% of a furlough scheme that costs 17 billion is a moron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Hymlick Manouvre said: Hit the nail on the head there, the SNP need a bigger state to make the decisions for them and to bankroll the country because they can't manage it themselves. The Holy Trinity of “too wee”, “too poor” AND “too stupid” from the Scotland-hater. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Hymlick Manouvre said: just get the B of E to pump money into the economy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallant Pioneer Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 15 hours ago, Antlion said: The Holy Trinity of “too wee”, “too poor” AND “too stupid” from the Scotland-hater. And all this after 300 years of glorious Union, but,but, it’s the SNP’s fault ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Hymlick Manouvre said: Because at this moment Scotlands finances are horrendous, very little income, lots of outgoings. No money from tourism, very little income from industry and farming, renewables are owned by foreign companies likewise oil and gas. Do you believe that Scotland could handle the furlough scheme if independent to the same extent that the UK government is, knowing that they can just get the B of E to pump money into the economy. If Scotland's finances are horrendous within the UK under a Government based in another country that borrows and spends on our behalf. Why on earth would we wish to remain part of that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymlick Manouvre Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: If Scotland's finances are horrendous within the UK under a Government based in another country that borrows and spends on our behalf. Why on earth would we wish to remain part of that? Just the same as a lot of the English don't want you to part of it also, better together and all that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymlick Manouvre Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, MixuFruit said: "The SNP are rubbish they'd make a mess of the economy" So they spent more money than they were given, how do they plan to pay that back ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymlick Manouvre Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 16 hours ago, Antlion said: The Holy Trinity of “too wee”, “too poor” AND “too stupid” from the Scotland-hater. Just the last one of the trinity is the prominent one, especially yours -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 As you'll see if you read the thread, the Scottish government is not permitted to run at a deficit and must balance its books unlike the UK government. You'd presumably be happier with the Scottish government spending less money on its covid response?Malky is one of those self hating losers that would be absolutely delighted if Scotland's Covid deaths increased, just so he'd have some ammo for this thread. Has he invented a relative in a care home yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymlick Manouvre Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Day of the Lords said: 1 hour ago, MixuFruit said: As you'll see if you read the thread, the Scottish government is not permitted to run at a deficit and must balance its books unlike the UK government. You'd presumably be happier with the Scottish government spending less money on its covid response? Malky is one of those self hating losers that would be absolutely delighted if Scotland's Covid deaths increased, just so he'd have some ammo for this thread. Has he invented a relative in a care home yet? You have no idea, really clutching at straws now. What exactly is it I have lost ? An independence referendum ? a Brexit referendum ? What a sick individual to even suggest I would wish anyone to be dead, absolute dick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Hymlick Manouvre said: Just the same as a lot of the English don't want you to part of it also, better together and all that. If there was a vote in England tomorrow on Scotland's membership of the "union". They would vote overwhelmingly to keep Scotland. Because despite all their sniveling bullshit about "subsidizing Scotland with are money!", they know exactly how much Scotland is worth to their UK coffers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Hymlick Manouvre said: So they spent more money than they were given, how do they plan to pay that back ? You're not very bright are you? They're topping it up using the devolved spending budget, because what the UK Government is providing (from the rest of Scotland's tax money it retains) is simply inadequate. They don't need to "pay anything back". Because Holyrood doesn't have the power to borrow large sums of money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Stop replying to malky..ffs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Stop replying to malky..ffs Until he's punted for the 758th time, I won't allow his BS to go unchallenged. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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