welshbairn Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, laughing gravie said: Have I just woke up and it's really 1319? You'd want the Brussels crooks over Westminster crooks? Aye, true independence It wasn't Brussels who brought in Universal Credit and some American firm to overrule doctors on who gets a sick note. Don't know anyone whose life has been affected adversely by a rule coming out of Brussels or Strasbourg. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said: To be correct, if we are taking about historical geographical designations, people from Scotland simply cannot be British.... Britain refers to the Southern part of the island. That part that was under Roman hedgemony and was known as the province of Britannia. Only when the free lands to the North of the wall are included does the island become known as Great Britain. The Scots then can properly be termed "the Great British" as opposed to just the British, like all them in the South. Happy like you to be part of the Great British then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: No its not difficult for a unionist to deal with - just like Anti Niemmi getting picked for Scotland Am I missing some bit of this debate ? Did he not play in goals for Finland ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Clutching at straws - get real man. It would be a disaster for Scotland for a marginal victory for independence. Society would be badly damaged. A real strategy would surely be based on producing consistent support of say 60% plus for independence in credible polls and to do that you need to clearly demonstrate why independence is the best option - you need a broad church of support not the Jeremy Corbyn style of narrow fundamentialism. To coin a phrase you need to build a One Nation approach that gets real buy in and not by hectoring and calling other Scots 'Yoons' etc. Remember the last referendum - Yes started below 35%.The campaign hasn't even started yet - I would put my house on the Yes vote increasing as the campaign went into full throttle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, MixuFixit said: First of all, he's finished. Second of all, it is. There's nothing a unionist can say that can persuade people like me to ignore their overriding sense of belonging with Scottish nationality. So what - you am Scottish (and British) - overriding sense of belonging maybe that is just another way of saying proud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The campaign hasn't even started yet - Where have you been for the last few years? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Is it not time for your evening milky drink and then bed boomer? Hard to respond to that quality of banter tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, MixuFixit said: No. Firstly I feel zero sense of belonging to a British identity. This is a problem for unionists when there are increasing numbers of people like me. Secondly a sense of belonging is not the same as a sense of pride. My sense of belonging doesn't come from anything Scots do or don't do as a nation. It's less definable than this. It can't be argued against. It's less definable and cant be argued against - nebulous would cover it then! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: It gets worse! What....Do you object to being called a Great Briton? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, git-intae-thum said: What....Do you object to being called a Great Briton? I'm great and I'm a Briton. So no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Well certainly not on P&B. We've had one highly respected poster talking of a Scotland, "flooded with English incomers...holding our nation back" and, "transplanting a vote into Scotland.". We've had another starting a thread to encourage a provo-equivalent Scottish Republican Army, stating, "Time to pick up arms and fight for our freedom" is what he said. Who does he want to kill in the name of the Natters? The English? Pipe bombs at Ibrox? Semtex in shopping centres? A truly outstanding piece of vicious shite yet he's still posting. It's been a shocking few days for you empty-headed Yessers. [emoji23]No wonder your previous wives binned you. What an utter fucking bore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, The_Kincardine said: I'm great and I'm a Briton. So no. You can obviously self define as a Briton if you choose. However to be geographically correct, you would then have to forsake your Scots identity. You see you simply cannot be both. Take the example of a Canadian. They are obviously not American. They would never call themselves American They are however North American. "Great" is subjective and completely irrelevant then in the context you have used it....you could equally be a "bellend" and a Briton. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: I'm great and I'm a Briton. So no. You're a tit who backs English nationallism over Scottish Nationalism. Edited December 18, 2019 by BawWatchin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said: Take the example of a Canadian Great country. One made by the Fraser Highlanders. Scotch on the maraud on the part of Empire. Again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, The_Kincardine said: Great country. One made by the Fraser Highlanders. Scotch on the maraud on the part of Empire. Again. Great country.....Scots descendents of the 78th would never allow themselves to be called American. Which is why modern Scots are no Britons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: No wonder your previous wives binned you. What an utter fucking bore. The ones who call me a bore are those who quote me most often. Still, I have nominees for 3rd or 4th ex wife whereas you're stuck with James McPake and a stadium teetering on the brink of collapse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 The ones who call me a bore are those who quote me most often. Still, I have nominees for 3rd or 4th ex wife whereas you're stuck with James McPake and a stadium teetering on the brink of collapse.Full-on "look at me" mode activated [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Will you still feel European in February or is it just about political structures?I will......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 51.7% in favour 48.3% against when "too stupid to know" is removed. I don't care tbh. 50.00001% of the vote will do.But that's only who favour a referendum, not those who would vote yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 2 hours ago, BawWatchin said: 51.7% in favour 48.3% against when "too stupid to know" is removed. I don't care tbh. 50.00001% of the vote will do. But that's only who favour a referendum, not those who would vote yes Have you came across a single "i'll vote NO again" demanding another referendum? I sure haven't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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