Jamie_B Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Widge said: I mean your quote misses off the below part of the email - * You will be aware that any ticket price has an element of VAT- A £30 ticket means we have to account to HMRC for £5 per ticket. * Generally, the rising cost of living has impacted on our internal costs such as heating (undersoil), lighting and others. You will appreciate that we endeavour to ensure that the Club is run sustainably . If we were to restrict pricing to say £20 per adult ticket, this would have resulted in a net loss. I hope that this response satisfies any concerns that you have and puts some context on the decisions taken in respect of pricing , which in our view are in the best interests of the Club. Not that I think it addresses there is any fault at all and frankly the generic "we couldn't do anything else" nature of it is really poor. That makes somewhat more sense than what I’ve received, which basically seems to cut off mid paragraph! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Pretty much exactly what was posted on here the other day, despite the poster being in no way associated with the club… 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) Frankly, if that is the stock response, it will enrage more people. What it suggests is that because we have lower crowds vs Rangers and Celtic, we should hand over all advantage to them. This despite that the last two home only attendances wouldn't fit in the main stand nor that ever game vs them is shifted from 3pm and is on TV. Pretty much calling it out as the fans fault for not making these games, despite beung shafted every time. Give us a season ticket option excluding these games and they can have their 3 stands IMO. Edited January 9, 2023 by Theyellowbox 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) "You will appreciate that we endeavour to ensure that the Club is run sustainably . If we were to restrict pricing to say £20 per adult ticket, this would have resulted in a net loss." If the club is not suitable without giving Rangers 3 stands then there's other questions to be asked regarding the day to day running. Especially as this game isn't budgeted for. Looks like this is going to be the regular thing now as well. Bye hundreds of season ticket holders. Edited January 9, 2023 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Club’s recent tweet surely isn’t all they’re going to say on the matter in the past I wouldn’t have thought so, but I wouldn’t put it past them now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) What they don't seem to understand is the fans are not just upset about the price. It's the dismissive nature towards our own fans. Fans have taken this personally. They clearly still don't get that based on the fact they've not bothered responding publicly (yet) and almost doubling down on justifying it. I don't think any on here are unaware of the financial challenges of running a club but it's the die hards they should be looking after. Not the away fans. They've made a mistake with this but despite different people running the club now day to day, they're still completely unable to admit/accept they're possibly wrong. Edited January 9, 2023 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: If the club is not suitable without giving Rangers 3 stands then there's other questions to be asked regarding the day to day running. Especially as this game isn't budgeted for. Exactly this - it's an unbudgeted, bonus home tie. The club are trying to dress their decision up as a necessity to ensure the running of the football club - probably in the hope that the "but we need the muney!1!" happy clappers lap it all up. It's not going to wash this time, already an angry reaction on the socials from the majority of people. The Club have failed to read the room and have completely fucked this up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 How can £20 result in a loss? Police costs? Maybe we'd be better off reducing the away allocation in that case. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: How can £20 result in a loss? Police costs? Maybe we'd be better off reducing the away allocation in that case. That's what I thought as well. If policing is the problem, why give them MORE tickets?! Edited January 9, 2023 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: That's what I thought as well. If policing is the problem, why give them MORE tickets?! I'd actually go the other way, £50 no concessions, we know those mugs would pay it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 This is a sign of things to come. The Browns weren't perfect but we're going to miss them big time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Flaherty needs punted 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Saintee said: This is a sign of things to come. The Browns weren't perfect but we're going to miss them big time. I think you are exactly right. This indicates that we will permanently be moved to the main stand from now on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Flaherty needs punted Was it his decision or a board decision? Must admit, I've not a clue how Saints work and make these decisions. In days gone by I would have assumed this decision was Steve's alone as previously it was often his way or the high way. Surely at least requires director approval/agreement? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Jamie_Beatson said: This from the club: You may not be aware, but as this is a Cup game, the pricing of the tickets requires to be agreed with the opposition. Further to that, the ticket receipts are split 50/50, with the home Club incurring the Operational costs, some of which are stated below. This part is not correct. After paying a 5% levy to the SFA, and the costs of VAR, St Johnstone will retain the first 20% of the gate receipts for operational costs. The remaining money will be split 50-50. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/9881/sfa_handbook-2022-23-digital.pdf 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Why not just play it at Ibrox instead? We’ve essentially given away home advantage anyway and just think of the incredible gate receipts that we could hoard 50% of! We could then put that money in the bank and all marvel at the millions there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: Was it his decision or a board decision? Must admit, I've not a clue how Saints work and make these decisions. In days gone by I would have assumed this decision was Steve's alone as previously it was often his way or the high way. Surely at least requires director approval/agreement? As far as im aware Steve Brown has nothing to do with the club anymore and the "board" is Roddy Grant who just does whatevers easiest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: As far as im aware Steve Brown has nothing to do with the club anymore and the "board" is Roddy Grant who just does whatevers easiest. It doesn’t half show 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: As far as im aware Steve Brown has nothing to do with the club anymore and the "board" is Roddy Grant who just does whatevers easiest. There is no danger that Roddy would be allowed to make any decision of real note. Steve Brown may not be part of the day to day, but I'd be pretty sure he'd have known about this in advance. Of course, if you wanted to be all conspiracy theory esque, you could say that this move will flood the club with cash, which may be appealing to any purchaser and also alow anyone coming in the pick up the first action of giving the fans back the east stand to get fans back on board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 That response is a fucking insult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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