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Theresa May has endured a bruising Brexit confrontation with Labour's Yvette Cooper who claimed the Prime Minter would not go ahead with no deal even if her agreement is rejected.

From ‘The Standard’ so not sure if it’s a typo or deliberate.

Move over Glenn!

 

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I’m certainly of the opinion that the SNP, Lib Dems and DUP - at the very least - should’ve been included in the debate.

But 55% of the Scottish vote at the last election sees the party leader represented in it. Almost 1.5 million votes for the Tories and Labour. Don’t think saying Scotland has ‘no voice’ is at all true, regardless of your opinion on the parties concerned.


At this stage in proceedings it’s hard to argue that these party leaders even represent their own parties
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20 hours ago, Kyle said:

May and Corbyn ffs. Can we not get Miliband and David Cameron back to debate this? Ed's death stare at the camera and Cameron's fake earnest face will be a huge improvement on Corbyn's fence sitting and May's robotic non-answering of questions. 

If a broader church of views isn't possible - which is ridiculous in itself - then we'd be as well not bothering. People can't vote on this deal so the public's view doesn't matter (as we've seen constantly more or less during the entirety of this negotiation) and most of the MPs have already nailed their flags to the mast. 

Genuinely - what is the point?

May: Voted remain, in charge of the country as it's leaving because it was the only opportunity to be Prime Minister

Corbyn: Ambivalent about the EU personally, unable/unwilling to ever compromise what he thinks is right, thus wilfully passing up the opportunity to be meaningful opposition to the worst situation the government's been in since the war

It'll be great entertainment, imo. Two utter frauds trying to convince people they want the other person to do something they want to do themselves, while pretending they don't.

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8 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Two utter frauds trying to convince people they want the other person to do something they want to do themselves, while pretending they don't.

As Tom Peck observed in the Independent the other day,  we can look forward to the charade of a debate between ‘a Remainer pretending to represent Brexiteers, and lifelong Brexiteer pretending to be on the side of Remainers.‘ 

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31 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

Wonder what happens if there’s another referendum and it’s boycotted by Leavers and/ or Remain wins but with a lower vote than the original Leave vote.

I'd like the prime minister - whoever it may be - to come out following the landslide win, stony faced, and just say 'milk, lemonade, chocolate' whilst doing the Chewin' the Fat movements to accompany it.

If there's a second referendum, it will be nasty as f**k and the turn out will be higher than before. Surely to fucking goodness the vast majority of yoofs that didn't turn out last time will be spurned into action by the clusterfuck of the last 2 and a half years.

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If there was a second referendum and remain won I'd Kevin Keegan style love it, love it if the government properly trolled the gammons and went as zealous with remain as they've been going with leave over the past few years: Schengen, the Euro, the lot.

(In reality, I'd be delighted with any sort of win and this farce was consigned to the dustbin.)

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18 minutes ago, Adamski said:

If there was a second referendum and remain won I'd Kevin Keegan style love it, love it if the government properly trolled the gammons and went as zealous with remain as they've been going with leave over the past few years: Schengen, the Euro, the lot.

(In reality, I'd be delighted with any sort of win and this farce was consigned to the dustbin.)

Gammon baiting will be a wonderful pastime in the event of a Remain win in a second referendum.

Even Noway+ will be enough for exploding heads and aneurysms.

 

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53 minutes ago, Adamski said:

If there was a second referendum and remain won I'd Kevin Keegan style love it, love it if the government properly trolled the gammons and went as zealous with remain as they've been going with leave over the past few years: Schengen, the Euro, the lot.

(In reality, I'd be delighted with any sort of win and this farce was consigned to the dustbin.)

If there was a second referendum, they would rig it for a second time.

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Scotland’s voice will not be heard.
Fucking stitch up.
 


Why should it be?

You either have a duel between May & Corbo - the two big hitters who are the only ones who can realistically alter things

Or

You give 8% of the country's population a 33% share of the debate time (which isn't fair)

Or

You invite every man/woman and their dog on and water down the debate to a worse version of Question Time
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8 minutes ago, Steve_Wilkos said:


 

 


Why should it be?

You either have a duel between May & Corbo - the two big hitters who are the only ones who can realistically alter things

Or

You give 8% of the country's population a 33% share of the debate time (which isn't fair)

Or

You invite every man/woman and their dog on and water down the debate to a worse version of Question Time

Don't you mean one "big hitter"? Corbyn has no chance of changing anything, ever.

Considering brexit looks like it's going to impact Scotland more than anywhere else, I think it's only right that we have a say in our "equal family of nations". Agreed?

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No, not agreed at all.

It's a falsehood that Scoatland will be the most affected, I think Northern Ireland may have something to say about that. This is because they will be impacted 100x more than Scoatland. Fact.

Additionally, the UK isn't an equal family of nations, you lot like being the BBEs plaything. Sturgeon isn't even an MP, she has no right to be on that platform. (BBE is #Big #Bad #Englishmen)

It's worth bearing in mind that this is the woman who was scared of being schooled by Steve Bannon in a 1-1 debate, so it's probably for the best that she doesn't turn up. Who else would the SNP send? Blackford? He's stunk enough rooms out in the last few weeks.

Corbo & May it is, thanks.

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For me the problem with the proposed format of the debate isn't so much Scotland's representation, but representation of the views that Sturgeon and others hold in terms of Brexit.

If there is going to be a debate then advocates of a 2nd referendum/stopping Brexit, as well as those in favour of a hard Brexit should be represented.

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6 minutes ago, Steve_Wilkos said:

No, not agreed at all.

A yoon WUM who doesn't think Scotland's voice should be heard. Well there's a surprise.

6 minutes ago, Steve_Wilkos said:

It's a falsehood that Scoatland will be the most affected, I think Northern Ireland may have something to say about that. This is because they will be impacted 100x more than Scoatland. Fact.

Oh, they'll be 100x worse off than Scotland with their nice big £1,000,000,000 bonus? Well you put FACT at the end, so it must be true.

6 minutes ago, Steve_Wilkos said:

Additionally, the UK isn't an equal family of nations

So you agree that they lied in 2014, to give Scotland a false sense of relevance in the UK?

6 minutes ago, Steve_Wilkos said:

It's worth bearing in mind that this is the woman who was scared of being schooled by Steve Bannon in a 1-1 debate, so it's probably for the best that she doesn't turn up. Who else would the SNP send? Blackford? He's stunk enough rooms out in the last few weeks.

By the looks of it, the only one running scared is Theresa May. Not only running from our First Minister, but also hiding from our only true independent media platform as well. She'll have a field day with Corbyn, which is the only reason she's having this "debate". She won't take on a real politican like Nicola Sturgeon.

6 minutes ago, Steve_Wilkos said:

Corbo & May it is, thanks.

^^^^ Shite WUM

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13 minutes ago, Steve_Wilkos said:



It's worth bearing in mind that this is the woman who was scared of being schooled by Steve Bannon in a 1-1 debate, so it's probably for the best that she doesn't turn up. 

Still at it eh.

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May's problem isn't Corbyn but her own party, apart from that, what the Hell is the point in a public TV debate when the public have no say over anything ??

The viewing figures will be awful as quite frankly the majority of the country couldn't give a toss and the ones who could see this as just a pathetic PR exercise which will undoubtedly serve no purpose.

On the other hand, it COULD be a precursor to a 2nd referendum ????

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^^^^ Shite WUM
Dunno what a WUM is lad.  

Yes, Northern Ireland will be worse off. There's no way the DUP are going to use that money wisely and you know fine well that this is a factual statement that cannot be debated. Stop being facetious.

I guess it was technically a lie. A lie that was told while we patted your head as you wiped away an elated tear from your eye. If 55% of your region believed in that blatant tripe then you deserve all that is coming to you. You voted to be the BBE bitches, so we’ll treat you with the contempt that spinelessness deserves.

The First Minister has NO right to be there, only MPs do, as they are the ones who will be voting on this #Brexit deal. Send Blackford instead ​​​​​​​and see how that works for you lot.
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