tintax Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 117 votes against is a terrible outcome for May. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I think her assurance she wouldn't lead them at the next general election was what saved her. Probably swung enough of them to save her bacon for another few months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Hedgecutter said: "The payroll voted for her" - Mogg He’s correct, less than half the non payroll voted for her. Minter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Mark Connolly said: He's on with Neil now, and he's raging. Neil is trolling him with "You lost". Would they have really expected to win? Apparently they were expecting a few days to get a debate going and put pressure on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Bet you're wondering what Chris Waddle thinks about this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I think her assurance she wouldn't lead them at the next general election was what saved her. Probably swung enough of them to save her bacon for another few months.A few peerages here and there and got a couple of sex pests back on the payroll 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, renton said: 117 isn't brilliant for her, and if nothing else spells out the fairly dismal maths of gettibg her deal through. Other PMs would be shaken by a third of her party wanting them gone, but May is the type to hang on for dear life even if it'd been one vote. What would Corbyn get? Everyone knows the Tories are utterly split with a suicidal wing and some manic remainers. Edited December 12, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Granny Danger said: He’s correct, less than half the non payroll voted for her. Minter. There's not a chance that everyone in the cabinet voted for! Never mind the junior ministers and PPSs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Pyrrhic victory, much like the Scottish independence referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, welshbairn said: What would Corbyn get? Everyone knows the Tories are utterly split with a suicidal wing. It doesn't matter because JC has the membership firmly behind him. TM was too scared to go to the members when she became PM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 The idea that everyone on the payroll voted for her is ridiculous. Anyone who has ever worked for an arsehole could tell you that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Deanburn Dave said: I think her assurance she wouldn't lead them at the next general election was what saved her. Probably swung enough of them to save her bacon for another few months. Undoubtedly this. The Tories will put on a brave face but it’s a far worse result than they would have wanted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: @welshbairn so not comfortable at all. No, you called it right. Enough for her to carry on though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I think her assurance she wouldn't lead them at the next general election was what saved her. Probably swung enough of them to save her bacon for another few months.She’s toast. Her last ditch effort to stave off defeat was a whirlwind begging tour of European leaders this week - that’s been shelved prior to the EU’s last summit of the year tomorrow. She needs to get a totally discredited deal through Parliament, has no party majority and has a third of her own party wanting rid of her.If she weren’t such a demented zombie she’d hand in her resignation this weekend. She’ll gormlessly cling on until the government collapses around her though. Which will be a matter of weeks if not days from now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, welshbairn said: No, you called it right. Enough for her to carry on though. Yeah she’ll carry on and eventually have to put her proposal to Parliament and it will get rejected by a significant margin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 What would Corbyn get? Everyone knows the Tories are utterly split with a suicidal wing and some manic remainers. Reece Mogg and co. submitted and failed to reach 48 letters of no confidence a month ago. There are now 117 who want rid of her in her own party. That is objectively a terrible result and not at all a continuation of previous party splits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: Yeah she’ll carry on and eventually have to put her proposal to Parliament and it will get rejected by a significant margin. She'll try to deliberately delay that vote until it's too late for anything else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, The DA said: She'll try to deliberately delay that vote until it's too late for anything else. Yeah, think its now a game of chicken, isn't it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, The DA said: She'll try to deliberately delay that vote until it's too late for anything else. She’s she will try and she will not be successful. I reckon it will be a second referendum or withdrawal of Article 50. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, renton said: Yeah, think its now a game of chicken, isn't it. Suspect Corbyn will wait for her to come back from the EU with her shiny not-so-new offering and then call for a vote of no confidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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