The OP Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Deplorable said: Get off work at 3 am most days. That's different than what I said. I said that even if you give black people the same income at the same points in life, they will end up on average with much, much less wealth. Differences in how wealth is handled is a massive factor in the income gap. That's specifically why reparations won't work as a long term solution for black poverty or the income gap. I was responding to a specific proposal for how to help black people in America. Black people in the same credit score range are more likely to default than white people. Black people with the same income are more likely to have a low credit score. That's what I mean about habits regarding wealth leading to different outcomes even if the income is the same. Parental bailouts (access thereto) and parental financing being the main reason for those I'd imagine. Edited February 9, 2017 by The OP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Court refuses to reinstate Trump travel ban. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38927175 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Court refuses to reinstate Trump travel ban.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38927175 And he's on Twitter with the caps lock on.bad.very bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, Zen Archer said: Court refuses to reinstate Trump travel ban. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38927175 Death squads of Iranian 5 year olds are invading Murca at this very moment. Bomb California! And Washington! (The state, not DC, shit it's too late?!?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Death squads of Iranian 5 year olds are invading Murca at this very moment. Bomb California! And Washington! (The state, not DC, shit it's too late?!?) Mike and Sheila will be pishing themselves at his misfortune. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 37 minutes ago, mjw said: And he's on Twitter with the caps lock on.bad.very bad. The big bad wolf can't even blow down the house of straw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 A Texas jury sentenced a woman to 8 years in prison today for illegally voting. Jesus. Bills have been introduced in both the House and Senate to break up the 9th circuit. John McCain is behind the one in the Senate. It seems like in recent years the 9th circuits record on rulings that proceed to the Supreme Court is between 10% and 30%. Kind of makes a mockery of the idea that judges are impartial experts ruling purely on law. Law professor Eugene Kotorovich notes something interesting in the 9ths ruling. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/02/09/the-9th-circuits-dangerous-and-unprecedented-use-of-campaign-statements-to-block-presidential-policy/?utm_term=.ca8f8aeb22f1 Spoiler Generally, the president has vast discretion in issuing visas. One of the major arguments against the executive order is that while in principle a president can limit immigration from the seven affected countries, it would be unconstitutional for President Trump in particular to do so, because in his case the action is motivated by impermissible religious bias. The central exhibit for this argument is his campaign statements about a “Muslim ban.” While the 9th Circuit did not address this at great length, focusing instead on due-process arguments, it did accept the basic validity of the form of the states’ argument. “The States’ claims raise serious allegations and present significant constitutional questions,” wrote the court. There is absolutely no precedent for courts looking to a politician’s statements from before he or she took office, let alone campaign promises, to establish any kind of impermissible motive. . . . By accepting the use of preelection statements to impeach and limit executive policy, the 9th Circuit is taking a dangerous step. The states’ argument is in essence that Trump is a bigot, and thus his winning presidential campaign in fact impeaches him from exercising key constitutional and statutory powers, such as administering the immigration laws. This would mean that Trump is automatically disbarred, from the moment of his inauguration, of exercising certain presidential powers, not because of his actions as president, but because of who he is — that is, how he won the presidency. At oral argument, the judges asked if Trump could ban travel from all majority-Muslim countries. The question should be reversed. If the plaintiffs cast Trump’s views of immigration as impermissible, by this reasoning he cannot take the otherwise clearly legal action of restricting immigration from any of the world’s 50-odd majority-Muslim countries. This would mean that immigration system as created by Congress — which depends on broad executive discretion — will have essentially been destroyed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 11 hours ago, NotThePars said: Definitely. Entering the country illegally and bloody working for her living. Absolute disgrace. Driving down wages for Americans and making extra profits for the rich. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I'm sure that people who spending the vast majority of their working day in court are terrified of Trumps threat to see them in, erm court. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I'm sure that people who spending the vast majority of their working day in court are terrified of Trumps threat to see them in, erm court. Tbf its in caps 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Deplorable said: Driving down wages for Americans Enforce the minimum wage, problem solved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Enforce the minimum wage, problem solved. 1. How? There are millions of illegals in this country who will work for less. Part of the way employment laws are enforced is that employees know their rights and make sure the employer follows the rules. Illegal immigrants don't care, and that makes them very, very attractive employees to certain employers. It's not just minimum wage, it's all employment protections. 2. It's not just about the minimum wage. There are plenty of jobs that would be "living wage" jobs within a purely 1st World/USA market, but have the pay driven down to near minimum wage by low wage immigration, legal and illegal. Have you ever worked at a place which employed illegal immigrants? Edited February 10, 2017 by Deplorable 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 14 hours ago, welshbairn said: The Queen doesn't travel with an army, and doesn't have the Secret Service having to rent a floor in Trump Tower in New York (amazing building, best in the world, top rates) to look after Phil the Greek or in case she pops in, quite aside from Mar-a-Lago. In comparison the Royal Family spent £5.1 million last year on official visits. Trump spends $3 million every weekend. P.S. You'll be infuriated to know that you're paying 56p a year for the upkeep of the Royal Family. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cost-of-royal-family-rises-twice-as-fast-as-inflation-9563293.html Do I have a choice? This is from your link: The cost of the monarchy to the taxpayer rose by nearly six per cent last year - more than double the rate of inflation - as the royal household bucked the trend for austerity and dramatically increased spending on the upkeep of its palaces. The Queen’s official expenditure from the Sovereign Grant, the amount released from the public purse each year to finance the monarch, increased to £35.7m - a rise of £1.9m on the previous year. The steep rise included a 45 per cent increase in the amount spent on the upkeep of royal residences, including Buckingham Palace and the Kensington Palace apartments of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. Public spending on refurbishing the 20-room central London living quarters of the couple and Prince George has totalled £4.5m over the last two years but royal aides said the cost of internal furnishings, including a new kitchen, had been met “privately” by the duke and duchess. The Independent understands this cost was in fact met from the income received by the Prince of Wales and his dependents from the Duchy of Cornwall, which critics claim is effectively public money. Royal aides insisted the £36m cost of the monarchy for the last financial year was equivalent to 56p per person in the country and represented “value for money”. the 20-room central London living quarters of the couple and Prince George has totalled £4.5m 20 f**king rooms - how many are homeless in London? income received by the Prince of Wales and his dependents from the Duchy of Cornwall The taxman claims that he disnae pay the full whack on this but he pleaded poverty and sent his lackey tae meet MPs. There is absolutely nae mention of Special Branch costs in that article. Remember it's no only Mrs Windsor that gets security as the rest of her clan gets special treatment as well. There is a photo in your link of Charlie Windsor living it up in India. The caption says it cost almost £500, 000 for his trip. Can ye remember when he went tae South Africa for Mandela's funeral and it cost almost £250, 000 for his plane fare alone. Prince of Wales's attendance at Nelson Mandela's funeral cost £246,160http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-charles/10926418/Prince-of-Waless-attendance-at-Nelson-Mandelas-funeral-cost-246160.html The official travel bill for the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall doubled in the last year as the heir to the throne took on more public duties, new figures show. The annual accounts for Clarence House, published on Thursday, show that the amount spent on air and rail travel for the couple increased by £679,000 to £1.3 million. Trips during the 2013-14 financial year included the £246,160 cost of a private jet to fly Prince Charles to South Africa in December for the state funeral of Nelson Mandela, separate figures published by Buckingham Palace show. A visit by the Prince and Duchess to India in November, followed by a trip to Sri Lanka for the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, cost £350,413, excluding £52,537 for advance trips to the countries taken by staff. Another £228,426 was spent to fly Prince Charles to the Middle East for a five-day trip. Nice work if ye can get it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Deplorable said: 1. How? The minimum wage is enforced checking that employers are paying their employees at least the minimum wage. In this country that work is undertaken by HMRC, if it helps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: The minimum wage is enforced checking that employers are paying their employees at least the minimum wage. In this country that work is undertaken by HMRC, if it helps. I work part time at a Chinese restaurant. Everyone but the drivers are illegals. They are paid less than minimum wage, no overtime, and the front of house staff have their tips confiscated by the owner. They employ Chinese accountants in New York City to make everything look legal. Explain how you want the employment laws enforced. Do you want federal agents going to every little employer in the country and checking papers? And then we haven't even touched on the whole underground economy of independent contractors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Deplorable said: I work part time at a Chinese restaurant. Everyone but the drivers are illegals. They are paid less than minimum wage, no overtime, and the front of house staff have their tips confiscated by the owner. They employ Chinese accountants in New York City to make everything look legal. Explain how you want the employment laws enforced. Do you want federal agents going to every little employer in the country and checking papers? And then we haven't even touched on the whole underground economy of independent contractors. Personal anecdotes are not evidence. Hope this helps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Personal anecdotes are not evidence. Hope this helps. Especially ones Swampy has made up [emoji38] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Deplorable said: I work part time at a Chinese restaurant. Why must you turn this forum into a house of lies? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Think America needs to build a wall with China. Chinamen love walls though tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, The OP said: Think America needs to build a wall with China. Chinamen love walls though tbf. so did Hadrian and Antonine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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