Oor Nicola Sturgeon thread.

[The_Kincardine]

1 minute ago, GTee said:

Not sure what that means. Anyway what's your thoughts on the home countries governing themselves. Clearly the governments could work together for the common good. Scotland has loads of water, which we can help out with for example. And the other countries could share their resources too. It makes sense for countries to govern themselves. No.

Both Scotland and England stopped being countries in any meaningful sense of the word in 1707.  Since then we've become so interwoven that partitioning us is pointless and painful.

What we need is better governance all round - which was what Holyrood was set up for.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

4 minutes ago, GTee said:

Scotland has loads of water, which we can help out with

Yes, but the DRS scheme seems a bit of a faff.

[GTee]

14 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Both Scotland and England stopped being countries in any meaningful sense of the word in 1707.  Since then we've become so interwoven that partitioning us is pointless and painful.

What we need is better governance all round - which was what Holyrood was set up for.

Scotland and England aren't countries. . Come awa min. We're not partitioning. Better governance is not being run by Westminster. Only my opinion like.

 

[GTee]

32 minutes ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said:

Yes, but the DRS scheme seems a bit of a faff.

Don't know what that is. But Scotland does get lots of water. Scotland also is very windy, has lots of other natural resources. No problem with sharing this. I'm pretty sure we get the benefits of financial services or something. Because we are clearly too wee, too poor and too stupid to self govern.

[Antlion]

9 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

Both Scotland and England stopped being countries in any meaningful sense of the word in 1707.  Since then we've become so interwoven that partitioning us is pointless and painful.

This from someone who blindly worships at the altar of the UK - a country which has partitioned various countries around the world and still insists on partitioning Ireland and breaking up the EU. Quite the gall.

Edited February 26, 2023 by Antlion

[Billy Jean King]

14 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

Both Scotland and England stopped being countries in any meaningful sense of the word in 1707.  Since then we've become so interwoven that partitioning us is pointless and painful.

What we need is better governance all round - which was what Holyrood was set up for.

Good luck down the golf club when you announce England ceased to be a country centuries ago

[Binos]

14 hours ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said:

Yes, but the DRS scheme seems a bit of a faff.

Is that the formula 1 thing

[welshbairn]

15 hours ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said:

Yes, but the DRS scheme seems a bit of a faff.

When I was a kid we used to go around finding empty bottles in the park and bins to take back to a shop where we'd get enough cash to buy fags. This scheme seems unnecessarily complicated and costly, back then they'd send the bottles back with the next delivery van and they'd reuse them, like milk bottles. Same later on in Amsterdam when we'd buy a crate of Grolsch and get a refund when we took the empties back.

Edited February 26, 2023 by welshbairn

[Binos]

11 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

When I was a kid we used to go around finding empty bottles in the park and bins to take back to a shop where we'd get enough cash to buy fags. This scheme seems unnecessarily complicated and costly, back then they'd send the bottles back with the next delivery van and they'd reuse them, like milk bottles. Same later on in Amsterdam when we'd buy a crate of Grolsch and get a refund when we took the empties back.

Unnecessarily complicated and costly is the modern way

[Salt n Vinegar]

4 hours ago, Binos said:

Unnecessarily complicated and costly is the modern way

On a DRS issue, anyone know what happens with plastic milk cartons? We get 2 deliveries a week. Are the dudes on the van meant to collect them? Good luck chasing them down street in the slightest breeze. At the moment we put them in our recycling bins, but to Hell with that at 20p a throw. 

[GTee]

Remember being in Prague for a Scotland game about 1999. I'm sure there were two prices on the crates of beer. One for taking the empty bottles back and one for not taking them back.

[GTee]

Pretty sure it was 1p or 2p for returning a bottle of Hays and Bon Accord bottles back in the day in Aberdeen. Enough for single fags from the icer.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

Murdo Fraser panting about ‘itll come crashing down tomorrow’ type stuff. Bad news ahead?

[carpetmonster]

5 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Murdo Fraser panting about ‘itll come crashing down tomorrow’ type stuff. Bad news ahead?

Aye, he’s going to make a TikTok of himself punching his cardboard cutout of Mickey Beale 

[oldbitterandgrumpy]

3 hours ago, GTee said:

Pretty sure it was 1p or 2p for returning a bottle of Hays and Bon Accord bottles back in the day in Aberdeen. Enough for single fags from the icer.

3d. Not 1p or 2p, 3d. If you were born after the 60’s you’d unlikely to know what 3d is. 

[Leith Green]

7 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Murdo Fraser panting about ‘itll come crashing down tomorrow’ type stuff. Bad news ahead?

He probably follows Wings over Scotland - looks the type

[Goomba]

7 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Murdo Fraser panting about ‘itll come crashing down tomorrow’ type stuff. Bad news ahead?

Bad news?  Only if you're a partitionist.

For most of us, the implosion of the SNP has been most welcome.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

8 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Murdo Fraser panting about ‘itll come crashing down tomorrow’ type stuff. Bad news ahead?

He's probably drunk and hurting after yet another sore one for blue bigots. 

[Granny Danger]

Going back to the thread title, I never thought my opinion of Nicola Sturgeon could change so dramatically and so quickly.

There will be some who will defend her right not to voice a preference for her successor but IMO it is an abrogation of responsibility.  She should make it clear that she is opposed to having a homophobe as SNP leader and First Minister.

 

[Trogdor]

There is a lot to be critical of Sturgeon for but keeping schtoom (although by what she has said its easy to infer she is Team Humza) in the leadership race doesn't make my list.