The Ultimate Super Ayr Thread

[AyrExile]

22 minutes ago, Nelson said:

We’ll need a minimum of 35 points to finish 8th, so saying we’re almost half way to that total is a positive spin on things.  Taking 1 point from 2 home games against teams that probably/certainly need to finish below us isn’t encouraging.  From what I’ve seen, Airdrie are the only other team I’d back to finish below us.  Certainly 1 home win all season by the first week in December is relegation form.  

30 points might be enough as we have a team at the top winning and a lot of shit festing amongst the bottom teams. Does our away form reflect a relegation bound team? We have dug ourselves out of a hole and found a striker that is scoring goals.  Your prediction was very relevant in September and i shared that view. It may still happen but less likely as it stands 

 

[NoAmarteyNoParty]

Not sure that "the players were dreadful immediately after my half time team talk" is quite the absolution of blame that Bullen thinks it is.

[railwayend]

7 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said:

Railwayend doing Wattos work 

I’m not one for blind panic bud , particularly after two 2-2 draws . Of course we have issue’s nobody is denying that . However the witch hunt on the manager is boring , did he really ask a 6ft 3in Stanger to get out jumped at a corner .? Or even not to get touch tight on Paton in the last play ? 

[Iain]

Just now, railwayend said:

I’m not one for blind panic bud , particularly after two 2-2 draws . Of course we have issue’s nobody is denying that . However the witch hunt on the manager is boring , did he really ask a 6ft 3in Stanger to get out jumped at a corner .? Or even not to get touch tight on Paton in the last play ? 

If you use logic like this no manager is responsible for any result in any game because everything is done by the players.

[diegomarahenry]

4 minutes ago, AUFC 1910 said:

I think the most annoying thing about this season, and the squad, and the gaffer is that we are not losing goals / games to absolute worldy goals.

It always seems to be basic errors that are our downfall.  So basic that the vast majority of the support can see them unfold before our very eyes.

Really really frustrating

That’s why his choice to throw another body at it yesterday was bizarre. We still get done by the same balls every week. Either the players are incapable of being coached(4 out of the 6 defenders that play regularly were were last season) or they aren’t being drilled in how to defend these types of balls. 
Brining on Bryden and going one up front and two wide players who have hardly had a game meant that we were basically giving up on forward play, removing out balls and inviting pressure with every clearance. 

We did this shit with McGinty & Baird to Adeloye 3 years ago and it was pish then.

[Richey Edwards]

5 minutes ago, NoAmarteyNoParty said:

Not sure that "the players were dreadful immediately after my half time team talk" is quite the absolution of blame that Bullen thinks it is.

See also; "the team that I'd fucked about with by making daft subs couldn't see out the game".

[railwayend]

1 minute ago, diegomarahenry said:

That’s why his choice to throw another body at it yesterday was bizarre. We still get done by the same balls every week. Either the players are incapable of being coached(4 out of the 6 defenders that play regularly were were last season) or they aren’t being drilled in how to defend these types of balls. 
Brining on Bryden and going one up front and two wide players who have hardly had a game meant that we were basically giving up on forward play, removing out balls and inviting pressure with every clearance. 

We did this shit with McGinty & Baird to Adeloye 3 years ago and it was pish then.

Defending a corner is the day job of a centre half . He simply can’t get out jumped by a static jumper , that is on Stanger , a player I like btw .

The whole unraveling part of yesterday was our DCM Syla going off . He is critical to our midfield as none of the others can do his job . 

[rgreig]

1 hour ago, AyrExile said:

The situation has improved for Bullen in a few areas but the elephant in the room is the standard of football and ability to compete at home. You can't really hide from this as less people will make the effort and it will hit turnover. This as t a time when cash is tight and paying for a new stand. I would certainly say he's been told to sort this out 

Bullen can point to individual errors, but anyone who is a neutral would say that QP fully deserved the draw yesterday. Yet again Bullen was out-thought by another manager in the division. While other managers make substitutions or formation changes to turn games in their favour, Bullen specialises in doing the opposite.

When the opposition retains possession we are particularly ineffective and rely on individual brilliance. Take Murphy and Chalmers out our team and we cannot compete.

[diegomarahenry]

2 minutes ago, railwayend said:

I’m not one for blind panic bud , particularly after two 2-2 draws . Of course we have issue’s nobody is denying that . However the witch hunt on the manager is boring , did he really ask a 6ft 3in Stanger to get out jumped at a corner .? Or even not to get touch tight on Paton in the last play ? 

It is more your point about where we are in the league and Wattos repetitive “we finished second” retort to any criticism of last season.

Morton look dead and buried until Christmas at least. Inverness haven’t lost in 4. Every other team bar Ayr and Queen’s Park have been fairly consistent. We are the only teams who have went on a honking run before changing things to be less honking. There is no guarantee that the teams around us will win all their games in hand but within a week we could be 9th. The pressure needs to be on now to make sure that doesn’t happen rather than after it does. 

[Shibuya]

We are the opposite of our unwashed county neeburs: they have great home form and horrific away form. Our away form is third best in the league, however you could argue that we've had a kind run of fixtures having avoided trips to Raith, Inverness and Dundee Utd so far.

November and December sees a crucial period for the team, a cup exit would be a disaster (financially as well) and we play quite a few teams who are looking to catch up to us. Interesting times ahead indeed. 

[Iain]

From our twelve league games so far we have two clean sheets, two games where we only conceded one goal (one of which we lost) and eight games where we've conceded two or more (only one of which we've won). The problem clearly isn't one goal in one game.

[Nelson]

18 minutes ago, AyrExile said:

30 points might be enough as we have a team at the top winning and a lot of shit festing amongst the bottom teams. Does our away form reflect a relegation bound team? We have dug ourselves out of a hole and found a striker that is scoring goals.  Your prediction was very relevant in September and i shared that view. It may still happen but less likely as it stands 

 

Cove Rangers managed 31 last season and they are the worst Chsmpionship side I’ve seen in years.  Accies were barely any better.  I don’t see any team in the league that are that level of bad.  

[eez-eh]

27 minutes ago, railwayend said:

Defending a corner is the day job of a centre half . He simply can’t get out jumped by a static jumper , that is on Stanger , a player I like btw .

The whole unraveling part of yesterday was our DCM Syla going off . He is critical to our midfield as none of the others can do his job . 

More “fine margins” pish.

The better you play the less you’re relying on not making individual errors. We were shite all half and putting ourselves under pressure. Defensive mistakes will happen, you can lessen them by not spending the whole 45 minutes camped in your own half.

[No_Problemo]

8 minutes ago, eez-eh said:

More “fine margins” pish.

The better you play the less you’re relying on not making individual errors. We were shite all half and putting ourselves under pressure. Defensive mistakes will happen, you can lessen them by not spending the whole 45 minutes camped in your own half.

Absolutely - there is no defending Bullen yesterday, and it is truly amazing that the odd person is still willing to. 

I lost count of the amount of times everyone in our back four did very well defensively in the second half, eventually the pressure is going to tell. And that pressure was because of Bullen’s woeful game management. 

I actually thought Ahui defended very well yesterday, against one of the better players in the league. Thomas didn’t do a thing until he moved across - at which point Bullen thought it would be a good idea to put someone on in front of Reading that can’t defend. A fresh McKenzie or McAllister (if he was fit enough) on that side to double up and it is far less likely we lose that goal. 

[Shibuya]

27 minutes ago, eez-eh said:

More “fine margins” pish.

The better you play the less you’re relying on not making individual errors. We were shite all half and putting ourselves under pressure. Defensive mistakes will happen, you can lessen them by not spending the whole 45 minutes camped in your own half.

Couldn't agree more. 

[Thumper]

The notion that the team is going to get better in January is incredible to me. Two things will happen: Dowds will be yanked back to Maryhill one second after the window opens, and two guys currently playing to crowds of fifty in the Southern League Division One Central will sign on deadline day.

The club could still finish mid-table. But a complete inability to win at home and a pretty poor form against most of the other teams fighting relegation is not encouraging, especially factoring in that the first choice striker in two months will be Bryden again.

[GuyIncognito]

38 minutes ago, Thumper said:

The notion that the team is going to get better in January is incredible to me. Two things will happen: Dowds will be yanked back to Maryhill one second after the window opens, and two guys currently playing to crowds of fifty in the Southern League Division One Central will sign on deadline day.

The club could still finish mid-table. But a complete inability to win at home and a pretty poor form against most of the other teams fighting relegation is not encouraging, especially factoring in that the first choice striker in two months will be Bryden again.

Dowds won’t go back to Thistle in January, he is finished there. Could maybe get him permanently in January actually

[D'Jaffo]

1 hour ago, Thumper said:

The notion that the team is going to get better in January is incredible to me. Two things will happen: Dowds will be yanked back to Maryhill one second after the window opens, and two guys currently playing to crowds of fifty in the Southern League Division One Central will sign on deadline day.

The club could still finish mid-table. But a complete inability to win at home and a pretty poor form against most of the other teams fighting relegation is not encouraging, especially factoring in that the first choice striker in two months will be Bryden again.

I know we’re used to getting screwed over but Dowds won’t go back to Firhill. Chalmers might end up being recalled but even then I’m not sure he’ll be a starter for Dundee United.

Priority in January is a permanent deal for Dowds and getting a centre back in to replace Musonda as he’ll be away for the AFCON. Hopefully Dempsey is back up and running by then and the midfield gets a bit stronger. As poor as this team is I still think we’re underachieving and that lies with Bullen. 

[diegomarahenry]

31 minutes ago, GuyIncognito said:

Dowds won’t go back to Thistle in January, he is finished there. Could maybe get him permanently in January actually

I think he will be here after Christmas. Although Thistle are paying for Adeloye to sit on the bench, which he will be happy to do and could, in theory send him back and recall Dowds to not play for them instead.

He will be here until the end of the season and it’ll depend on any other teams in the league making an offer better for next season than we do, if he’ll continue beyond that. 

[diegomarahenry]

2 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:

I know we’re used to getting screwed over but Dowds won’t go back to Firhill. Chalmers might end up being recalled but even then I’m not sure he’ll be a starter for Dundee United.

Priority in January is a permanent deal for Dowds and getting a centre back in to replace Musonda as he’ll be away for the AFCON. Hopefully Dempsey is back up and running by then and the midfield gets a bit stronger. As poor as this team is I still think we’re underachieving and that lies with Bullen. 

Chalmers won’t go back to Dundee United, by Christmas we will realistically and maybe mathematically be out of the title race. If he can dent other teams then they will be happy for him to stay. He can’t play for anyone else.

Next season might be more difficult.