DukDukGoose Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, coprolite said: What does the H stand for? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 The first image on your list is a 6th century Egyptian depiction of him. If you were a Mediterranean noble who lived indoors all day you would tend to have a light skin tone than field workers. That is not racism, though in modern terms its classism. Its why old painting show fat pale women as idealised images of women, they are in doors and well fed. This is Mark the Evangelist from 6th century Aksum Christianity. (Ethiopia.. ) Are they racist? Art depictions of The Christ changed over time and cultures. Its what happens. People depict their gods as similar to them. Religion played a hugely important role in our societies for millennia. But in my opinion the time for them is over and we need to embrace rationality, science and the coldness of a universe that does not give a shit. No one is come to rescue us from global warming or our shitty politics. Its us alone in a fucking huge and empty universe. Us. Alone. The arguments against it are not cultural depictions not meeting modern trends. Especially trends that are not aware of the way a Mediterranean culture of Late Antiquity may have seen its leaders then trying to mix that with early second millenia west European art and drawing f**k knows what conclusion. Its us, all alone in a universe that gives no fucks about us and if we are to improve the world we need to work to make it better for others knowing that when we go we will reap no benefit but those who came before us reaped no benefit for making our lives better. For the tiny blip on the billions of years of existence we will make, we should work to make those who come after us existence a wee bit better. Our countries, cultures, politics, art and pish will be forgotten. Just dont be a c**t and try to make it a bit better for others. Why is he dropping a dolphin shaped bomb? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Terrapin Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 On 11/07/2018 at 12:55, shuggz said: My favourite cheeses are Red Leicester and Wensleydale. Blessed are the Cheesemakers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Boy George had a band called Jesus Loves You but he was a Hare Krishna. All take and no give. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Terrapin Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 On 14/07/2018 at 11:22, Granny Danger said: One pet hate of mine is people talking about ‘Christian babies’, ‘Muslim babies’, ‘Jewish babies’, etc.; there is no such thing. Religion is elective, someone must choose to believe therefore a child who doesn’t yet understand the concept cannot be ‘Christian’ or anything else. The religious brainwashing of the young from an early age is a different thing... This was a big moment in my youth of not believing the shite I had been fed from an early age. The myth that a child not christened would not go to heaven was particularly baffling. That and just about every other parable invented to fit different scenarios. Doubting Thomas etc.....................It;s all a pile of shite but if you believe and it helps you live your life then fair dos but don't foist it upon anyone else and judge them for not being as gullible as you. As Stephen Fry said, 'if there was a God the creator why would it allow something to exist that's sole purpose is to extract liquid from a child's eye, causing blindness and unsufferable pain. Come to think of it why would you worship something that would allow that to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 This was a big moment in my youth of not believing the shite I had been fed from an early age. The myth that a child not christened would not go to heaven was particularly baffling. That and just about every other parable invented to fit different scenarios. Doubting Thomas etc.....................It;s all a pile of shite but if you believe and it helps you live your life then fair dos but don't foist it upon anyone else and judge them for not being as gullible as you. As Stephen Fry said, 'if there was a God the creator why would it allow something to exist that's sole purpose is to extract liquid from a child's eye, causing blindness and unsufferable pain. Come to think of it why would you worship something that would allow that to happen.Glenn Hoddle would probably have some ideas on the excruciating eye pain....You simply cannot underestimate the logical cartwheels these folk will do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, Joe Terrapin said: This was a big moment in my youth of not believing the shite I had been fed from an early age. The myth that a child not christened would not go to heaven was particularly baffling. That and just about every other parable invented to fit different scenarios. Doubting Thomas etc.....................It;s all a pile of shite but if you believe and it helps you live your life then fair dos but don't foist it upon anyone else and judge them for not being as gullible as you. As Stephen Fry said, 'if there was a God the creator why would it allow something to exist that's sole purpose is to extract liquid from a child's eye, causing blindness and unsufferable pain. Come to think of it why would you worship something that would allow that to happen. Yeah, I think if ‘belief’, however irrational, stopped there then I’d be less inclined to criticise. It’s the use of religion to control or dominate (the religious right and their position on homosexuality and abortion), or manipulate (the practice of shunning of apostates among Jehovah’s Witnesses, for example) that makes organised religion much more insidious and deserving of criticism. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Nosejob Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 There is one God, who I have created in my own image. As for the Bible, it’s an interpretation of a translation of an edit of an an account first written hundreds of years after the events took place. It also claims the value of pi is 3 and that wearing a poly-cotton shirt is an affront to God. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Joe Terrapin said: This was a big moment in my youth of not believing the shite I had been fed from an early age. The myth that a child not christened would not go to heaven was particularly baffling. That and just about every other parable invented to fit different scenarios. Doubting Thomas etc.....................It;s all a pile of shite but if you believe and it helps you live your life then fair dos but don't foist it upon anyone else and judge them for not being as gullible as you. As Stephen Fry said, 'if there was a God the creator why would it allow something to exist that's sole purpose is to extract liquid from a child's eye, causing blindness and unsufferable pain. Come to think of it why would you worship something that would allow that to happen. As my mate Dave said, if there was a God the creator, why would it allow an arsehole like Stephen Fry to exist? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 As my mate Dave said, if there was a God the creator, why would it allow an arsehole like Stephen Fry to exist?That's weird, as Stephen fry is on Dave quite regularly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 18 hours ago, pandarilla said: 20 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: As my mate Dave said, if there was a God the creator, why would it allow an arsehole like Stephen Fry to exist? That's weird, as Stephen fry is on Dave quite regularly. There’s different ways of reading that response. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 On 03/06/2021 at 23:01, Melanius Mullarkey said: That’s not Jesus. That’s Johnnydun. Correct. 48 of you are going to hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Correct. 48 of you are going to hell. Dens thread for this pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Dens thread for this pish. You will be paying rent in the New Campy soon enough mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, johnnydun said: You will be paying rent in the New Campy soon enough mate. I find the idea that I will still have a team to support quite uplifting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Certainly, but my love is not commensurate with the love he gives us.Shut up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 On 11/07/2018 at 10:16, Rugster said: Jesus doesn't exist. Like Rangers, and your football career. Correct, fuck even the letter "J" didn't exist when he was allegedly kicking around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Correct, f**k even the letter "J" didn't exist when he was allegedly kicking around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) Me, I think Jesus was different from the Christian conception of him. He was an itinerant troublemaking rabbi with ideas above his station, who probably didn't think he was the son of God (only in the Gospel of John - the latest and least authentic gospel - is he quoted as saying that), who tried to lead a political movement to overthrow Roman rule in Judea (Matthew chapter 10 has him more or less explicitly promising to start a civil war!), but he was squished like a bug by the Roman establishment after smashing up the temple and pissing off all the Jewish Leaders That Mattered in first century Jerusalem. It's notable that the charge sheet items against Jesus in the gospel of Luke are all secular political offences (claiming to be a king, and urging Jews to not pay their taxes and overthrow Rome), rather than blasphemies against Judaism. It's after he died that his followers tried to keep his political movement going by claiming he was the son of God, returning from the dead to lead the Jewish people to victory - in a very similar manner to the way that modern far-right Trump followers today reacted to the failure of their movement and Biden's election victory by generating absolutely ludicrous apocalyptic fantasies about election fraud and how JFK Jr will come back from the dead and Trump will have everyone in power in the US arrested. Basically, early Christianity was the QAnon of it's day. Edited May 3, 2022 by Aim Here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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