Stylish Kid Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 19/03/2024 at 13:54, Peil said: Annotated it for you. Anyway I love Raeside/Bradshaw as a combo, and I did really enjoy Suzi McCabe pointing out to Cosgrove that she was "Saving his pension" as he tried to make the tired "alphabet soup" (or equivalent) gag. Bravo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Stylish Kid said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Stuart and Tam news https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24218335.tam-cowan-attends-diversity-training-sexist-comments/ Rangers fans taking offence to a joke that Gough “may not be against apartheid”. Gough was an advocate of forging closer sporting links with the apartheid regime of the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 7 hours ago, Shandon Par said: Stuart and Tam news https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24218335.tam-cowan-attends-diversity-training-sexist-comments/ Rangers fans taking offence to a joke that Gough “may not be against apartheid”. Gough was an advocate of forging closer sporting links with the apartheid regime of the time. "Mr Cowan made comments which had "elements of sexism and sexual innuendo" in a programme broadcast on February 10." Unforgivable. Throw the book at him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BukyOHare Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Tam and Stuart attend diversity training: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 9 hours ago, Shandon Par said: Stuart and Tam news https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24218335.tam-cowan-attends-diversity-training-sexist-comments/ Rangers fans taking offence to a joke that Gough “may not be against apartheid”. Gough was an advocate of forging closer sporting links with the apartheid regime of the time. Not only sporting links.. Quote I was young and all my mates had gone to the South African army. I wanted to go to the South African army with all my mates. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/richard-gough-reveals-dundee-united-29746309 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 2 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Throw the book at him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar_Army Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 2 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: "Mr Cowan made comments which had "elements of sexism and sexual innuendo" in a programme broadcast on February 10." Unforgivable. Throw the book at him. Think you will find it should be she/her/hers, he/him/his, and they/them/theirs. There are other nonbinary pronouns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 11 minutes ago, Sugar_Army said: Think you will find it should be she/her/hers, he/him/his, and they/them/theirs. There are other nonbinary pronouns. I was told I couldn't use this/that/the other. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Not only sporting links.. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/richard-gough-reveals-dundee-united-29746309 Exactly. We have to take it that the complaint is Stuart suggesting that we have to consider the possibility Gough wasn’t 100% a hater of black people has offended some Rangers fan. Whatever their intentions were, that’s what the BBC have endorsed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) Hopefully they send Cowan on some musical taste training as well. Edited March 29 by Melanius Mullarkey 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Here's how history was taught in Apartheid South African schools: Quote The easy bit for the education department was deciding to dump the version of history propagated under what was called "Christian National Education", peppered with white heroes with Dutch surnames. For decades, children of all races learned that the Afrikaner was the real victim of South Africa's perpetual strife. As it was told, the peaceful Boers who settled in the Cape were abused and oppressed by the British in the early 19th century, and so forced to make the Great Trek north. They were attacked and betrayed by the great African chiefs, including the king of the Zulus, and so had to fight for their survival. And when they had finally established their own countries with the Boer republics, the British made war to get their hands on Johannesburg's gold mines. Tens of thousands of Boer women and children were murdered in the infamous British concentration camps. And when it was over, the Afrikaner was a British subject and a second-class citizen. Only in 1948, with the election of the National party government, was the Afrikaner liberated. All of this went to justify the imposition of apartheid. It was not a form of oppression, its authors argued, but a survival strategy for a people persecuted on all sides. (https://www.theguardian.com/education/2001/mar/16/schools.news). Gough grew up in a society where all institutions were dedicated to the maintenance of the political project they were upholding (Apartheid). That heavily conditioned the population. Cosgrove should be allowed to flippantly reference Gough's support for Apartheid at the time without having to explain all that. The complainant will've been one of these folk who shit the bed whenever anything to do with racism is mentioned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodieJ12 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 12 hours ago, Shandon Par said: Stuart and Tam news https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24218335.tam-cowan-attends-diversity-training-sexist-comments/ Rangers fans taking offence to a joke that Gough “may not be against apartheid”. Gough was an advocate of forging closer sporting links with the apartheid regime of the time. Interesting that 1 complaint can result in this. Jermaine Jenas deeply upsets my well-being whenever I hear him, I will need to let the relevant authorities know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 36 minutes ago, BrodieJ12 said: Interesting that 1 complaint can result in this. Jermaine Jenas deeply upsets my well-being whenever I hear him, I will need to let the relevant authorities know. I presume it was more him airing, via the BBC, an implication that Gough is a racist/apartheid supporter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 People can complain about whatever they want, it will only be upheld if what is said is actually slanderous or offensive, which is what has happened here. It has been a long time coming for Cowan's output across social media, I don't know enough about Gough's background to know whether Cosgrove's comment is reasonable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Oh to be a fly on the wall during Tam Cowan's diversity training. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afc69 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Cowan was absent last weekend due to illness but was also absent a few weekends previously. Stuart made a very vague comment in reference to his whereabouts, I wonder if he was undertaking his training that weekend? For the Sevconians to get all hot under the collar regarding these comments shows them up for the hypocrites that they are. I know Stuart fairly well and he doesn’t have a bad bone in his body but in these days of Woke culture, there is very little for folk NOT to get upset about -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Cannae believe Cosgrove is as auld as 72. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, Afc69 said: Cowan was absent last weekend due to illness but was also absent a few weekends previously. Stuart made a very vague comment in reference to his whereabouts, I wonder if he was undertaking his training that weekend? For the Sevconians to get all hot under the collar regarding these comments shows them up for the hypocrites that they are. I know Stuart fairly well and he doesn’t have a bad bone in his body but in these days of Woke culture, there is very little for folk NOT to get upset about You have absolutely no idea what the word 'woke' means. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, Afc69 said: Cowan was absent last weekend due to illness but was also absent a few weekends previously. Stuart made a very vague comment in reference to his whereabouts, I wonder if he was undertaking his training that weekend? For the Sevconians to get all hot under the collar regarding these comments shows them up for the hypocrites that they are. I know Stuart fairly well and he doesn’t have a bad bone in his body but in these days of Woke culture, there is very little for folk NOT to get upset about No such thing as woke culture. It is an invention of the US hard right. People have bitched and moaned about all sorts of things for decades, centuries really. Plays have been banned, people dragged in to court, the Mary Whitehouse of the world have always been around. Most voices were isolated. The Internet has now joined all those voices together. Apparently, this is "woke" when it is what has always been out there but magnified x 100. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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